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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2880 on: January 25, 2014, 11:14:20 pm »
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Ah yes, forgot to divide the domain by 2. Excellent, thanks brightsky! Much appreciated :)
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« Reply #2881 on: January 26, 2014, 02:37:39 pm »
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I'm looking for a simpler way of doing the attached question. My answer is correct but I had to find the individual values of AP and AB from the values of t and n. This is a tech-free question and my method would have taken longer than necessary by hand as it involved manipulating many fractions.
The attached answers are attached and indicate a seemingly shorter method.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2882 on: January 26, 2014, 10:25:18 pm »
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have no clue what theyre doing in the solutions, but this is how i'd do it. it doesn't seem like *too* much work.
sorry if you can't follow my super sloppy, halfassed working. more or less, i found AB, then found AP by using the given coordinates and solving simultaneously. once you have AP in terms of a constant and AB, its easy to say what the ratio is. 

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2883 on: January 27, 2014, 11:10:57 am »
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Not related to the purpose of this thread, but you have a very interesting fingernail. :)
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« Reply #2884 on: January 27, 2014, 12:04:14 pm »
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have no clue what theyre doing in the solutions, but this is how i'd do it. it doesn't seem like *too* much work.
sorry if you can't follow my super sloppy, halfassed working. more or less, i found AB, then found AP by using the given coordinates and solving simultaneously. once you have AP in terms of a constant and AB, its easy to say what the ratio is.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I did. It looked as if it could've been done much more simply from the solutions though. Thanks for that well presented explanation (:

Not related to the purpose of this thread, but you have a very interesting fingernail. :)

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« Reply #2885 on: January 27, 2014, 04:07:24 pm »
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Hi, how do I prove that the diagonals of a parallelogram bisect each other? (using vectors)
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« Reply #2886 on: January 27, 2014, 04:42:47 pm »
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Hi, how do I prove that the diagonals of a parallelogram bisect each other? (using vectors)

Hey Alisina,
Please refer to the attached diagram. Sorry, it was rushed through and doesn't really look exactly like a parallelogram.
Let's say we have a parallelogram ABCD. We can use the property of linear independence to prove that the diagonals bisect each other.

Let AB = DC = a and DA = CB = b, where a and b are vectors.
AC = AB + BC = a - b and DB = DC + CB = a + b
Let AO = xAC  = x(a-b) and DO = yDB = y(a+b)
Now consider triangle AOD: DA = DO + OA = DO - AO
But DA = b, DO = y(a+b) and AO = x(a-b)
Hence, b = y(a+b) - x(a-b)
b = ya + yb -xa +xb = (y-x)a + (y+x)b
(y-x)a + (y+x-1)b = 0
Since a and b are linearly independent:
y-x=0
y+x-1=0
Solve both these equations simultaneously to get x=1/2 and y=1/2
This tells us that O is the midpoint of diagonals AC and DB.
Hope that helps (:

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« Reply #2887 on: January 27, 2014, 04:49:43 pm »
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Let AB = DC = a and DA = CB = b, where a and b are vectors.
AC = AB + BC = a - b and DB = DC + CB = a + b
Let AO = xAC  = x(a-b) and DO = yDB = y(a+b)
Now consider triangle AOD: DA = DO + OA = DO - AO
But DA = b, DO = y(a+b) and AO = x(a-b)
Hence, b = y(a+b) - x(a-b)
b = ya + yb -xa +xb = (y-x)a + (y+x)b
(y-x)a + (y+x-1)b = 0
Since a and b are linearly independent:
y-x=0
y+x-1=0
Solve both these equations simultaneously to get x=1/2 and y=1/2
This tells us that O is the midpoint of diagonals AC and DB.
Hope that helps (:

Thanks Alchemy :))
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2888 on: January 27, 2014, 09:07:30 pm »
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Not related to the purpose of this thread, but you have a very interesting fingernail. :)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2889 on: January 27, 2014, 10:57:25 pm »
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lmao leave my obnoxious princess nails alone! :P it's to remind me to eat more fruit. :'D
(i am actually an overgrown three year old)

It was a compliment! :)
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« Reply #2890 on: January 28, 2014, 01:51:41 pm »
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do you always need to factor vectors:

For example for one question i got an answer (which i didn't completely factor) of:


and in the answers, they had written:
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so, i was just wondering if my answer is acceptable, or would marks be deducted.
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« Reply #2891 on: January 28, 2014, 01:59:33 pm »
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I highly doubt you'd have to "simplify" your answer further. I don't think I always did.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2892 on: January 28, 2014, 05:12:17 pm »
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do you always need to factor vectors:

For example for one question i got an answer (which i didn't completely factor) of:


and in the answers, they had written:
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so, i was just wondering if my answer is acceptable, or would marks be deducted.

Apparently they used to penalise but not any more. Examiners will credit equivalent answers.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2893 on: January 29, 2014, 11:01:29 am »
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Hi, a question asks me to prove the cosine rule using vectors. What I did was that I used dot product, but I couldnt get the exact formula. Instead I got (a^2+b^2-2ab)cosx. Can anyone please help me find the correct ans?
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2894 on: January 29, 2014, 12:19:28 pm »
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EDIT: Added a diagram.
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