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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2008, 10:35:26 am »
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After doing almost everything to the best of my ability for BM all year - the only advice that I have that hasn't already been posted, is to make friends with your teacher and ensure that he/she doesn't screw you over.

My notes are already on this website. Good Luck.

That's a pretty big dogact by your teacher, was he marking you way to harshly on SACs? Not helping you?

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2008, 10:59:14 am »
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After doing almost everything to the best of my ability for BM all year - the only advice that I have that hasn't already been posted, is to make friends with your teacher and ensure that he/she doesn't screw you over.

My notes are already on this website. Good Luck.

That's a pretty big dogact by your teacher, was he marking you way to harshly on SACs? Not helping you?


Well I don't know about jsimmo's teacher, but from my experience my teacher was a harsh marker, nothing would please her, she thought I was too cocky >_>

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2008, 11:34:24 am »
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It's good that they're harsh markers...

But that doesn't mean they have to give 'bad' grades to VCAA.

A lot of (smart) teachers will standardise SAC marks, i.e. if the class does overall poorly on a SAC

This year we had one SAC which the class averaged somewhere around 65% - I got like 90% and ended up with a 48 and half the class got above 40 - but the teacher realised we would do much better on the exam then that SAC mark compared to the rest of the state so he gave somewhere around..30% of the class A+ another 30% A etc.

We only had 2 students go through receiving A+ in every SAC, even though we had 50% of the class in the top 8% of the state.

Therefore not disadvantaging us come December 15th.

A teacher has the freedom to play around with SAC grades, and they should if they're smart and know what it takes to get high scores. Teachers should aim to give SAC marks respective of the expected exam score.

Having said that, I think it's pointless when teachers continuously administer easy SACs, allowing smart students to achieve 95%+ consistently with minimal study involved. So many times these kids get too far ahead of themselves and are disappointed come December 15th when they score a 36.

Having looked at the statistics for subjects from last year, in many subjects 18% of students get A+ on the SACs but only 8% get A+ on the exam (or similar to this).

In summary, goto a good school and SACs don't matter :)


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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2008, 11:35:59 am »
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It doesn't help when your teacher is a harsh marker and you go to a crappy school.... LOL

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2008, 12:13:13 pm »
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I'll chuck my notes up soon. 32 pages or so and 15000 words of BM goodness :] Needa fetch it off my laptop so yeh, I'll do it when I've got time.

awesome, i need a copy too.

thanks in advance!

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2008, 12:58:55 pm »
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It doesn't help when your teacher is a harsh marker and you go to a crappy school.... LOL

Thats when it sucks!

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2008, 03:20:45 pm »
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After doing almost everything to the best of my ability for BM all year - the only advice that I have that hasn't already been posted, is to make friends with your teacher and ensure that he/she doesn't screw you over.

My notes are already on this website. Good Luck.

That's a pretty big dogact by your teacher, was he marking you way to harshly on SACs? Not helping you?


He told me I had only lost 1 mark overall in SACs for the entire year - I got my results and somehow I got (A, A+, A+).

I'm going to get the SoM to see how well I went in the exam - if it is a high mark then my marks couldn't have been moderated down.. so he must have given me the A? Therefore he screwed me over.
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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2008, 04:43:17 pm »
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After doing almost everything to the best of my ability for BM all year - the only advice that I have that hasn't already been posted, is to make friends with your teacher and ensure that he/she doesn't screw you over.

My notes are already on this website. Good Luck.

That's a pretty big dogact by your teacher, was he marking you way to harshly on SACs? Not helping you?


He told me I had only lost 1 mark overall in SACs for the entire year - I got my results and somehow I got (A, A+, A+).

I'm going to get the SoM to see how well I went in the exam - if it is a high mark then my marks couldn't have been moderated down.. so he must have given me the A? Therefore he screwed me over.

Get the first statement thingy aswell? Statement of study score I think it was called? 
Which tells you your actual GA scores and 'explains how your score was calculated' -whatever that means.

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2008, 08:28:46 am »
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Statement of Marks I believe you're talking about :P

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2008, 09:29:31 am »
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Does the statement of marks tell you your scores for SACs as well?

From what I understand a statement of study score, tells your SAC scores, whereas statement of marks is just for the exam...

Correct me if i'm wrong.

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2008, 10:22:34 am »
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Does the statement of marks tell you your scores for SACs as well?

From what I understand a statement of study score, tells your SAC scores, whereas statement of marks is just for the exam...

Correct me if i'm wrong.

I don't know... I haven't even heard of a statement of study score... :/

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2008, 10:32:36 am »
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Ah well, it was on the application form in the letter we all received yesterday... Meh!

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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2008, 02:20:31 pm »
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Does the statement of marks tell you your scores for SACs as well?

From what I understand a statement of study score, tells your SAC scores, whereas statement of marks is just for the exam...

Correct me if i'm wrong.

Oh, I didn't really know what the Statement of Study Score was?? So you think that it just tells you your SAC marks?

I just presumed it was a piece of paper just stating your GA marks (A+, A+, A+) - but that would be pretty pointless information to pay $8.20 for.
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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2008, 02:21:39 pm »
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It tells you exactly which marks you lost in the exam, so you can check it against the exam when it gets posted up on the VCAA site. However, I don't think it gives any information about SACs; only the exam.

EDIT: WHAT THE HELL IS A STATEMENT OF STUDY SCORE!?
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Re: General Advice for BM students
« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2008, 02:23:16 pm »
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It tells you exactly which marks you lost in the exam, so you can check it against the exam when it gets posted up on the VCAA site. However, I don't think it gives any information about SACs; only the exam.

Whats the difference between the Statement of Study Score and Statement of Marks?
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