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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2009, 10:57:34 pm »
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Noticing the fundamental limit:



Let yields:

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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2009, 11:02:32 pm »
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16.) use l'hopital's rule.

OR:



 (1)

However:






equating this with (1) gives QED

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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2009, 11:31:03 pm »
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Noticing the fundamental limit:



Let yields:



lol damn that was trivial. there are many definitions of e. This limit would be less trivial if we began with a different definition of e, namely:



or that series expansion.

btw: dcc what was ur 'expected solution' since this is aimed at spec students so i tried to limit(sorry for pun, only found it when proofreading) myself to spec knowledge however by doing so we made the problem more trivial, which is not a general trend of these problems.
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2009, 11:36:12 pm »
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Question 16:




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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2009, 11:41:02 pm »
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btw: dcc what was ur 'expected solution' since this is aimed at spec students so i tried to limit(sorry for pun, only found it when proofreading) myself to spec knowledge however by doing so we made the problem more trivial, which is not a general trend of these problems.

I don't really have any 'expected solutions' for any of these problems, I just figured this thread would get more coverage in the Specialist Maths forums then in the General Mathematics forum. 
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2009, 11:59:07 pm »
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ok kool :)
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2009, 12:09:11 am »
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16) Using l'hopital's theorem



Let



Differentiating with respect to yields:





therefore equation becomes

limit yields:
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2009, 12:23:03 am »
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Find

17) Using l'hopital's theorem again

let



so



so

limit yields
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2009, 02:03:15 pm »
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18.)



Term inside the outermost brackets is between -1 and 1 when x is beyond a certain value, provided that a is not between -1 and 1. Therefore that term raised to some number is also between -1 and 1.




 



Now take limit as x approaches infinity of all sides (aka sandwhich theorem or squeeze theorem)

Hence the thing equals 0 for all values not in (-1,1].

Btw: the above is for a>1. For a<-1 we need to reverse the inequality, which still gives the same answer.

For value a=0. The limit is obviously 0.

For values in (0,1):

Looking at the original expression, it is obvious that the term can be made as small as one wishes by making x large enough. At some value of x, the expression is some value M. Hence by increasing the value of x the modulus of the expression becomes less than the modulus of M. The expression is negative, so the expression becomes greater than M (less negative).

Hence we know that for all values of x beyond some number:




Now take the limit as x approaches infinity of these terms and u find that the limit of the lower bound is zero since the gets smaller in modulus as x approaches infinity(in fact it approaches -1), while the bit appraoches 0. And so using the product property the limit is 0 and so the limit asked in the question is also 0 for a in (0,1).



the term is between 0 and 1. The modulus of the term
can be made as small as we like. Hence when x is beyond some value the term will always be between 0 and 1. Using sandwhich theorem again gives the required result.

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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2009, 02:05:10 pm »
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You got to put another } after the ^{....           
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2009, 10:55:53 pm »
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I have a triangle, and I connect each vertex of the triangle to a point on the opposite side which divides the side into 3. Like this:


These lines intersect each other to form a triangle, which is the triangle defined by the 3 red dots shown. What is the area of this triangle?

(Bonus: what if instead of dividing the opposite side into 3, you divide it into n?)
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2009, 07:09:41 pm »
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Can someone explain the disadvantages of doing all three maths in there vce?

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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2009, 07:16:28 pm »
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VCE maths is dull. Kills the creativity and appreciation of mathematical rigour that some of the questions in here and other recreational problem threads require.
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2009, 07:18:05 pm »
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Can someone explain the disadvantages of doing all three maths in there vce?

Cheers :)

Only two may count to your Primary 4. So if you are really a maths person and you 50 all your maths, then one of them will still be relegated to 10%. Other than that, the only other disadvantage is that you might get bored doing further at the same time as spesh. Ideally I would say the best way to do this would be further yr. 10, methods yr. 11, spesh yr. 12 so you avoid that potential pitfall
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Re: SUPER-FUN-HAPPY-MATHS-TIME
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2009, 07:18:40 pm »
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VCE maths is dull. Kills the creativity and appreciation of mathematical rigour that some of the questions in here and other recreational problem threads require.

Although some of the spesh integration stuff that requires thinking outside the box a bit is always good to do and gives a good sense of satisfaction at the end
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