How hard is it to achieve an H2A/H1 average for someone who achieved an 81 ATAR?

[Peter_1993]

Hi,

I achieved an 81 ATAR score - I'm a really lazy person but I've decided that I will HAVE to turn this attitude around for university as I require a H2A average and a fairly competitive LSAT score in order to be accepted into Melbourne Law School.

I'll be completing an Undergraduate of Arts majoring in Politics and International Studies (Access Melbourne).

I was wondering, for someone who achieved an ATAR of 81, is an H2A or even H1, realistically, beyond my capabilities? How hard is it to actually achieve an H2A or H1? Is it the equivalent of achieving a 80%+ on the end of year VCE examinations? Or would it be the equivalent of achieving a 95 ATAR?

I know each of those measures are extremely subjective but a simple indicator of the level of difficulty in achieving these grades would be very helpful.

Thank you.

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I also have one other question regarding whether undertaking https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/MAST10012 will count towards my overall GPA.

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Oh, and is the GPA an indicator of tertiary marks across ALL 3 years of study undertaken at a tertiary institution or just the last year? Do marks from other institutions (successful transfers) also contribute?

[Eriny]

Getting H1s and H2As should be doable if you like the subjects, do the readings, and study quite hard. Do your best and don't be too put off if your grades aren't quite there at the end of your first semester. If you stick with it, Arts is an area in which almost everybody improves their grades over time once you get used to what is expected of you.

[JinXi]

My friend got an ATAR of 85 and did a Bachelor of Science. In 1st sem, he did Chem 1, Bio 1, Calc 1 and Indo as his breath. Sad to say, when the results came out, he failed everything (45-50 range) except Indo. For sem 2, he did Indo and repeated Calc 1 and Chem 1 and got h2b's in calc 1 and chem.

However, this guy never studies and plays tetris battle in lectures so -.- Imo is you study a reasonable amount, keep up to your work and most importantly, don't underestimate uni, a h2a is achievable.

P.S. Might be a little different in Arts.

[John President]

"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude." Thomas Jefferson

Not an expert on Arts subjects, but I'd suggest this: As long as you don't sit back and think "I got an ATAR of 81, I shouldn't set expectations too high for myself", and put enough work in, you can achieve your goal.

[Peedles]

Your enter shouldn't have any bearing on how well you do in Uni. Uni is pretty much clean slate and everyone is on the same playing field. I know alot of my friends who got 98+ for their ENTERS and are getting P's and H3's. Conversely, there are those who have gotten ENTERs less than myself and have scored H2A's and H1's.

The good thing about University Grade is that it usually does accurately reflect the amount of work that you put in during the semester. All the subjects where I didn't give it my all and "gave up" I got H2B's. Hard subjects which I thought was impossible but kept going at it, I got a H1. So don't think about your ATAR anymore going into uni. (Although, I wouldn't say there is absolutely no correlation). Those who adopt and find good study habits in high school will obviously do well in Uni. In saying that, those who struggled in VCE BUT then do not choose to change their study habits will continue to do badly.

All subjects completed during your undergraduate degree contribute to your GPA. If your gunning for a health science course the last three years of study (or the whole BSci/BBiomed course if that's the only course you've completed recently) will count towards your GPA with each year being weighted x1, x2, x3(your most recent year of study). From my knowledge subject transfers from other institutions do count towards your GPA (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

[nagato]

My friend got an ATAR of 85 and did a Bachelor of Science. In 1st sem, he did Chem 1, Bio 1, Calc 1 and Indo as his breath. Sad to say, when the results came out, he failed everything (45-50 range) except Indo. For sem 2, he did Indo and repeated Calc 1 and Chem 1 and got h2b's in calc 1 and chem.

However, this guy never studies and plays tetris battle in lectures so -.- Imo is you study a reasonable amount, keep up to your work and most importantly, don't underestimate uni, a h2a is achievable.

P.S. Might be a little different in Arts.

"dont underestimate uni" = dont ever forget that

[Phy124]

Could someone please explain the meaning of H2A,H1 etc.

Does H2A it refer to high distinction or?

[Peedles]

Refer to this:

http://policy.unimelb.edu.au/UOM0382

[JinXi]

My friend got an ATAR of 85 and did a Bachelor of Science. In 1st sem, he did Chem 1, Bio 1, Calc 1 and Indo as his breath. Sad to say, when the results came out, he failed everything (45-50 range) except Indo. For sem 2, he did Indo and repeated Calc 1 and Chem 1 and got h2b's in calc 1 and chem.

However, this guy never studies and plays tetris battle in lectures so -.- Imo is you study a reasonable amount, keep up to your work and most importantly, don't underestimate uni, a h2a is achievable.

P.S. Might be a little different in Arts.

"dont underestimate uni" = dont ever forget that

K this is awkward...

[Peter_1993]

Thanks guys! I'll definitely be taking university seriously!

Also, Merry Christmas!

[nagato]

My friend got an ATAR of 85 and did a Bachelor of Science. In 1st sem, he did Chem 1, Bio 1, Calc 1 and Indo as his breath. Sad to say, when the results came out, he failed everything (45-50 range) except Indo. For sem 2, he did Indo and repeated Calc 1 and Chem 1 and got h2b's in calc 1 and chem.

However, this guy never studies and plays tetris battle in lectures so -.- Imo is you study a reasonable amount, keep up to your work and most importantly, don't underestimate uni, a h2a is achievable.

P.S. Might be a little different in Arts.

"dont underestimate uni" = dont ever forget that

K this is awkward...

COME ON MAN, it wasnt tetris battle, it was street fighter 4 on the iphone. GOSH

[QuantumJG]

At uni it is harder to get high marks than it is at highschool. For an instance, students doing a MSc (in math) get a payment of $4,000 per year for having an average >75 (this is the threshold of high performing - I'm a fair way behind that).

It is possible to achieve the grades you need, but the university will make you work for them.

[kamil9876]

For an instance, students doing a MSc (in math) get a payment of $4,000 per year for having an average >75 (this is the threshold of high performing - I'm a fair way behind that).

hey any more info on this? is this something you have to apply for? too bad I didn't apply for any awards/scholarships when applying for masters, couldn't find something specifically for math (other than operations research/statistics which I don't do).

[mark_alec]

hey any more info on this? is this something you have to apply for? too bad I didn't apply for any awards/scholarships when applying for masters, couldn't find something specifically for math (other than operations research/statistics which I don't do).

I'm pretty sure I saw a poster about it near the maths reception or on the wall opposite what was the library.