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Chemistry Questions Thread
« on: December 30, 2011, 10:52:05 am »
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Food essences are usually dissolved in ethanol. These essences contain an ester as their active ingredient. Suggest why:
a) water is not a sutiable solvent
b) hexane is not a suitable solvent
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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 11:08:54 am »
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Esters are would react with water to form its alcohol and carboxylic acid derivatives
R-OH + R'-COOH -> R-COOR' +H2O
The reverse of the above equation forms the reactants when excess water is present

Hexane is non polar, esters are polar (like dissolves like substances)
When you have substances that are non polar, they form stronger bonds when non polar solvents are present. (Thermodynamically stable)
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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 11:13:24 am »
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thanks! could you explain part a further? I don't think I quite understand..
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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 11:25:57 am »
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Also:
Write flow diagrams showing all organic and inorganic reagants required to prepare:
a) propanoic acid from propane
b) ethyl ethanoate from ethene

How would I go about this?
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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 11:39:20 am »
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propane+Cl2 -> (uv) 1-chloropropane
1-chloropropane + NaOH -> 1-propanol
1-propanol -> (K2Cr2O7) propanoic acid

Similar for b) but ethene + H2O -> ethanol
ethanol -> (K2Cr2O7) ethanoic acid

react the acid and alcohol to form ethyl ethanoate

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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 03:52:07 pm »
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Okay, so I've been doing the organics reactions part of Unit 3, and I've been getting rather confused with which states to use in each equation, particularly in whether to use (aq) or (l). Could someone explain this to me please? :)
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 04:20:10 pm »
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(l) usually. Most of the questions on papers are about the industrial production of esters, alcohols, etc. in this context I don't think the reactants are aqueous. In regards to condensation reactions forming H2O with esters for example I'd just go for (l) products, technically esterification is exothermic so any water formed may be evaporated. Same goes for catalysts (eg. VCAA in the 2011 U3 only gave marks for writing H2SO4 (l) as the catalyst NOT H2SO4 (aq) because a concentrate is needed)

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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 04:42:25 pm »
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thanks, that helped a fair bit! :)
okay, next question haha.

Calculate the percentage yield if 5.0g of ethanol is oxidised to produce 4.8g of ethanoic acid.
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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 05:13:37 pm »
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thanks, that helped a fair bit! :)
okay, next question haha.

Calculate the percentage yield if 5.0g of ethanol is oxidised to produce 4.8g of ethanoic acid.
Never really enjoyed chem so neglected it a bit, but I'll give it a shot.

%yield = (actual/theoretical) x 100

Ethanol being oxidised to ethanoic acid is shown by the equation:

CH3CH2OH + H2O -> CH3COOH + 4H+ + 4e-

The ratio of CH3CH2OH : CH3COOH is 1:1

n(CH3CH2OH) = m/M = 5.0/46 = 0.109 mol

n(CH3COOH) = n(CH3CH2OH) = 0.109 mol

m(CH3COOH) = n x M = 0.109 x 60 = 6.54 g

%yield = (4.8/6.54) x 100 =  73 % (2 sig figs?)

*note: it may be necessary to go to more decimal places etc. (also, this could be totally wrong :/)

edit: put 4.7 not 4.8
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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 05:32:17 pm »
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Yep, the answer in the book was 72%, so thank you!
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2011, 02:00:54 am »
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Yep, the answer in the book was 72%, so thank you!
No worries, glad to help. Feel free to ask any more questions you may have.
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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2011, 10:41:25 am »
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Food essences are usually dissolved in ethanol. These essences contain an ester as their active ingredient. Suggest why:
a) water is not a sutiable solvent
b) hexane is not a suitable solvent

Actually, I disagree with kenhung here. Unless they're really small esters (like ethyl methanoate or sth) esters are actually insoluble in water. Whilst they do have a polar carbonyl group, the size of the ester means that dispersion forces between ester molecules are favoured over any form of dipole-dipole between the C=O and water. So water is not a suitable solvent because it's insoluble.

With hexane (this is under the assumption that food essences are consumed) it is actually quite toxic (hexane would dissolve most esters actually, as it's non-polar) and should not be consumed. [Ethanol, whilst somewhat toxic, is often taken by people in small doses anyway (or larger doses if you went to a party ;P) and can be metabolised by liver.] Think of drinking hexane as...drinking petrol :P
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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2011, 11:19:16 am »
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I agree, only for small esters...

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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2011, 11:20:57 am »
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Would esters dissolve in hexane?

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Re: Chemistry Questions Thread
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2011, 11:23:32 am »
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure they dissolve in hexane.
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