The most challenging aspect of Specialist

[TrueTears]

Ok then, we'll just wait until next semester until you start talking about how a passionate student would also picture vectors in infinite dimensional Hilbert Spaces and study bounded linear functionals on them, or consider them as just a special case of modules over a PID.

so what i was talking about was simply directed towards a passionate vce kid, when did this turn into discussion regarding a passionate uni kid?

and yes if i were the passionate uni student id probs do some research into the bigger picture, but that's another matter, for now this is vce, and i suspect that a passionate spesh student wouldn't get mind fucked if they checked out some linear algebra, rather i think learning a bit of elementary linear algebra is a good supplement to year 12 spesh, especially considering students are also taught vector calculus later on in the course, i think some linear algebra ideas would be quite helpful.

[kamil9876]

That's my point, you said that a passionate vce kid would learn about n-tuples/bases... but why stop there? how about Hilbert Spaces and modules over a PID?

Now since VCE doesn't teach you any mathematics from a pure perspective, not suprised why so many kids find 'vector proofs' so hard.

Again, "many kids" suggests more than just the one off TT who loves maths.

\endposting (let's not stray too off topic)

[TrueTears]

That's my point, you said that a passionate vce kid would learn about n-tuples... but why stop there? how about Hilbert Spaces and modules over a PID?

Now since VCE doesn't teach you any mathematics from a pure perspective, not suprised why so many kids find 'vector proofs' so hard.

Again, "many kids" suggests more than just the one off TT who loves maths.

\endposting (let's not stray too off topic)

lol, shush you, stop teasing me already ;(

[kamil9876]

rather i think learning a bit of elementary linear algebra is a good supplement to year 12 spesh

actually this is not so bad, would actually finally clear up the 5 page threads on linear independence.

[TrueTears]

rather i think learning a bit of elementary linear algebra is a good supplement to year 12 spesh

actually this is not so bad, would actually finally clear up the 5 page threads on linear independence.

LMAO, true that lol

[HERculina]

are there any 'crazy vector proofs' in the actual exam? i finished exercise 2A of essentials for vectors and I already found it a bit hard did anyone else feel the same way =O is essentials vectors questions way easier than the ones on exam? or the same level?

[TrueTears]

are there any 'crazy vector proofs' in the actual exam? i finished exercise 2A of essentials for vectors and I already found it a bit hard did anyone else feel the same way =O is essentials vectors questions way easier than the ones on exam? or the same level?

dw about it lol, there's hardly any on the exam and even if there are, it's normally a pretty easy one

[HERculina]

are there any 'crazy vector proofs' in the actual exam? i finished exercise 2A of essentials for vectors and I already found it a bit hard did anyone else feel the same way =O is essentials vectors questions way easier than the ones on exam? or the same level?

dw about it lol, there's hardly any on the exam and even if there are, it's normally a pretty easy one

[paulsterio]

I like linear algebra (Y)

btw, i wonder if we put TT and kamil in a cage and got them to out-maths eachother, who would win? :\

[Planck's constant]

rather i think learning a bit of elementary linear algebra is a good supplement to year 12 spesh

actually this is not so bad, would actually finally clear up the 5 page threads on linear independence.

The answer is UMEP Maths.

[Charmz]

are there any 'crazy vector proofs' in the actual exam? i finished exercise 2A of essentials for vectors and I already found it a bit hard did anyone else feel the same way =O is essentials vectors questions way easier than the ones on exam? or the same level?

I did really bad on vectors in GMA, but i found 2A to be pretty good actually. Essentials has really dodgy explanations so i use maths quest for explanations and I think it makes it a lot easier. I don't understand the dot product though, in both essentials and maths quest.