Sleep sucks.

[rife168]

Is it just me or does the amount we sleep seem like a major fault in how efficient we are as a species. I know you can argue that we need that much to stay rejuvinated etc. but when you consider that, with ~8hrs of sleep a night, you could lose in excess of 25 years in an unconscious state of nothingness, it seems like a big ol' waste of time.

The 'uberman' sleeping pattern seems more efficient, but still.... Imagine how much more you could get done with say, a few hours sleep once a week..or better yet..no sleep at all..!

Vietnamese man who hasn't slept for 38 years: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/sleep-ngoc-thai-tony-wright-randy-gardner-david-blaine-2855.html (I remember reading that in the time he saved by not sleeping, he built 2 dams and a shed by himself (or something like that))

I think there are drugs to help you rejuvinate well with just 3-4hrs of sleep, like Modafinil or Orexin if I recall their names correctly.
Or maybe we should just take meth. Then when it wears off, take more meth.

Thoughts? Especially med students. I want to eradicate sleep from my life.

[Greatness]

Sleep is good! You get to live some wicked fantasies The feeling of being in a warm bed when you wake up on a cold and rainy morning and not wanting to get up. <3

[Unknown_one]

If we cant sleep how do we get away from the horrors of humanity?
Liek death grief, war etc...
How do we as a species dream?
If we cant sleep, we simply can't be healthy, or find it hard to without the use of extrinsic substances..
If you don't like it tough, thats how we were built. =D..
Yeah.
But aside from that fact, sleeping is commonly another use for hibernation, it was used as a tool for survival, rather opposed to resting the body, if we can't hibernate, then pretty much we can't survive if the conditions aren't right.
Anyways, Im going to bed, to sleep. =D

[rife168]

Sleep is good! You get to live some wicked fantasies The feeling of being in a warm bed when you wake up on a cold and rainy morning and not wanting to get up. <3

You get to live some wicked fantasies - take acid.
The feeling of being in a warm bed when you wake up on a cold and rainy morning and not wanting to get up. - you can still lie in bed and whatnot, but you could do something like...learn string theory overnight instead of doing nothing..

Then you wouldn't need to sleep and you just gained 25+ years!

[rife168]

If we cant sleep how do we get away from the horrors of humanity?
Liek death grief, war etc...
How do we as a species dream?
If we cant sleep, we simply can't be healthy, or find it hard to without the use of extrinsic substances..
If you don't like it tough, thats how we were built. =D..
Yeah.
But aside from that fact, sleeping is commonly another use for hibernation, it was used as a tool for survival, rather opposed to resting the body, if we can't hibernate, then pretty much we can't survive if the conditions aren't right.
Anyways, Im going to bed, to sleep. =D

Yeah, it's frustrating that it's so vital. But I can see civilisations in the future looking back at us, laughing and saying

'Wow, they dug up fossil fuels and burnt them, polluted the atmosphere, only lived to 90-100 if they were lucky, and wasted a third of their lives sleeping!'
'Oh, what nonsense!'
'Ha ha ha!... Now, where's my spaceship?...'




ok maybe not exactly like that...but you get the point

[dc302]

I used to sleep like 4 hours a day, but the extra awake time was simply spent procrastinating so...

[Hutchoo]

I was actually going to ask my doctor about this, but VN is close enough.

When I sleep at a reasonable hour (~11pm), I can only sleep for about 4-5 hours MAX before waking up and not being able to go back to sleep. When I sleep at a crazy hour (5am+) I can sleep for ~8-12 hours.
WHAT?

Btw. I feel more awake on 4-5 hours sleep than I do on the recommended 8. Anyone else like me?

[SDPHD]

During Year 12, sleep was the only thing I looked forward to every day. I still look forward to it.

Nothing compares to how good sleeping feels.

Btw. I feel more awake on 4-5 hours sleep than I do on the recommended 8. Anyone else like me?

I'm not an expert but maybe you're waking up at the wrong part of a sleep cycle when you sleep for longer.

[Hutchoo]

How do I know when/what is a good time to wake up? :/ Is it different for everyone?

[oliverk94]

Yer I read that we spend 25 years of our lives sleeping in my Psychology textbook.. it was a major WTF moment for me..

[Phy124]

Btw. I feel more awake on 4-5 hours sleep than I do on the recommended 8. Anyone else like me?

I'm not an expert but maybe you're waking up at the wrong part of a sleep cycle when you sleep for longer.

Yeah, maybe you're being woken up by light or sounds in the middle of a sleep cycle. As far as I know, sleep cycles are approximately 1 and a half hours, so you could test the theory out.

How do I know when/what is a good time to wake up? :/ Is it different for everyone?

90 minute intervals after going to sleep i.e. 6 hours, 7 and a half hours, 9 hours etc. (I'm pretty sure anyway)

[JellyDonut]

YO I DON'T SLEEP CUZ SLEEP IS THE COUSIN OF DEATH

[nacho]

if ur all so inclined on using the time spent on sleeping to do productive things,
then find ot how much time you waste on t.v/computer/etc and cut that out and do something productive lol

sleep is pretty awesome, u can no clip and experience new worlds

[slothpomba]

You won't be able to get those drugs without a prescription, so, that idea is off the table.

Why would you want to anyway? Do you actually have all that much stuff to do you need to sacrifice sleep? If you do you really need to reassess that, if you don't actually need to do all that workload you need to look at how you think. If you have an attitude you need to work constantly, to the point of willingly giving up sleep on a regular basis, that isn't a healthy attitude. Might want to take a peak at the idea of a work/life balance.

These drugs are often used by people who actually need them, narcoleptics and the like. Other times they're used by the military and other civil forces but they actually have a legitimate reason to do that. They don't do it on a constant basis either.

We have to be cautious of extending a specific case to the general. Its (supposedly) true that man didn't sleep for 38 years without any ill effects but what about the other billions of people that don't and can't do that. He might of had some kind of neurological or endocrine condition. Not exactly something to wish for.

I'd imagine there aren't many if any studies on long term sleep deprivation (that's what you're suggesting to do to yourself afterall). People who sleep less than 7 hours a week tend to get more sick and live shorter lifes than those who sleep 7. This is also true for those who sleep more than 8 (supposedly). As far as i remember reading anyway.

Sleep deprivation is really not something you want to do, at all. It messes with your immune system, your brain, your hormones, your skin/complexion, ect.

Also if none of this is true, i think sleep is important just psychologically, to break days apart. Imagine if one day constantly ran into the next one and they all blurred together, i would think it would be quiet  horrible. Your mind needs a break really..

Also i remember shift work induced sleep disturbance being listed as a confirmed carcinogen (causes cancer) or a highly suspected carcinogen.

It might seem like a good idea but think about it, if you miss out on sleep to that degree you will (most likely) be tired for most of the day. I remember i did this during a lot of highschool (not that i was working during that time, was just talking to friends and such) and the next day i was absolutely dead tired almost falling asleep in class and when i got home on the desk. Sure, you might gain a couple hours a day by not sleeping as much but its definitely not worth it if you spend the rest of the next day absolutely dead tired and not able to work at efficient levels.

Also sleep is bloody awesome...just sayin'

[nisha]

Sleep is good! You get to live some wicked fantasies The feeling of being in a warm bed when you wake up on a cold and rainy morning and not wanting to get up. <3

WORST PART IS WHEN U HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET UP.