Internal Transfer Biomed question.

[Ngage0]

Dunno about how it is in 2nd and 3rd years, but 1st year biomed didn't seem to be any harder than 1st year science. I think people just like to complain, or think that their degree is harder than other's...

Any degree or tafe on that matter is always going to difficult to some extent, its all about how hard you work and study.

[Massofbubbles]

Dunno about how it is in 2nd and 3rd years, but 1st year biomed didn't seem to be any harder than 1st year science. I think people just like to complain, or think that their degree is harder than other's...

Any degree or tafe on that matter is always going to difficult to some extent, its all about how hard you work and study.

And how much you like what you are studying

[paulsterio]

I know, you can do similar subjects to those in biomed. As for your questions, this is what i have read and been told.

I'm not saying you shouldn't listen to other people, but always think about things and try to find out why

"BBioMed is better cause it helps you for the GAMSAT" - that's very much untrue. The GAMSAT has three sections, the first section is about Logical Reasoning, which BioMed won't help you with, the second section is essay writing, which BioMed doesn't help you with. The third section is Chem, Bio and Physics - both BSc and BBioMed subjects are pretty much quite equal and hence, neither will help or disadvantage you.

"BBioMed is more medical oriented" - same subjects as BSc in some regards, so not really

"BBioMed will help me get into Med" - selection is based on GPA, GAMSAT and Interview, not whether you did BioMed or Science

[Ngage0]

I'm not saying you shouldn't listen to other people, but always think about things and try to find out why 

"BBioMed is better cause it helps you for the GAMSAT" - that's very much untrue. The GAMSAT has three sections, the first section is about Logical Reasoning, which BioMed won't help you with, the second section is essay writing, which BioMed doesn't help you with. The third section is Chem, Bio and Physics - both BSc and BBioMed subjects are pretty much quite equal and hence, neither will help or disadvantage you.

"BBioMed is more medical oriented" - same subjects as BSc in some regards, so not really

"BBioMed will help me get into Med" - selection is based on GPA, GAMSAT and Interview, not whether you did BioMed or Science

May i ask you why people do Biomed or why its competitive if science provides almost the same course.

[nubs]

Just out of curiousity what course are you doing nirbaan?

Science, so yeah I might be a little biased
My reasoning:
Apart from med, there is absolutely nothing that appeals to me in the health sciences area. So if I do Biomedicine, and I can't get into med, I'll be stuck with future career or further study options that I may hate.

With science, I can keep options for med open, while pursuing other interests of mine such as maths, and then after the 3 years, I can make a decision on whether I want to continue studying maths or go into med. And I like the fall-back options I can have if I do science if can't get into med if I try out for it.

[paulsterio]

May i ask you why people do Biomed or why its competitive if science provides almost the same course.

1) Prestige
2) UoM's awesome advertising and marketing skills

That's all

[Ngage0]

Science, so yeah I might be a little biased
My reasoning:
Apart from med, there is absolutely nothing that appeals to me in the health sciences area. So if I do Biomedicine, and I can't get into med, I'll be stuck with future career or further study options that I may hate.

With science, I can keep options for med open, while pursuing other interests of mine such as maths, and then after the 3 years, I can make a decision on whether I want to continue studying maths or go into med. And I like the fall-back options I can have if I do science if can't get into med if I try out for it.

Yea, i too am doing Science. I am also in somewhat the same boat as you. But my main interests are either Medicine or Engineering. Science allows me to persue both and so does Biomed but also with i personally think a somewhat better chance of getting into med.

[nubs]

May i ask you why people do Biomed or why its competitive if science provides almost the same course.

Good marketing by the uni, feeling of prestige, stuff like that. It could also just be that people really, really want to get into anything to do with the health sciences field when they leave uni, so biomed is better in that sense cause it already has a lot of it planned out for you. It could also just be that people are really interested in that course.

But for the most part, I think it's just the marketing. A lot of people who get 98+ atars might not want to 'waste' it by going into a course like science. The high atar cut off also makes people think it's a better course even though this may not be the case at all.

A lot of people in biomed (I assume) want to go into med later on, and for some reason they believe that doing biomed will give them a better shot at getting into med, when - from what I hear - this really isn't true, because Science gives you an equal chance of getting into a graduate med school (according to the people manning the UoM phones)

[86]

May i ask you why people do Biomed or why its competitive if science provides almost the same course.

1) Prestige
2) UoM's awesome advertising and marketing skills

That's all

lol, Paul. He's asking in comparison to Science. Prestige and marketing skills are more of a Melbourne vs. Monash argument. But let us all not allow ourselves to enter that discussion..

[Ngage0]

1) Prestige
2) UoM's awesome advertising and marketing skills

That's all
Good marketing by the uni, feeling of prestige, stuff like that. It could also just be that people really, really want to get into anything to do with the health sciences field when they leave uni, so biomed is better in that sense cause it already has a lot of it planned out for you. It could also just be that people are really interested in that course.

But for the most part, I think it's just the marketing. A lot of people who get 98+ atars might not want to 'waste' it by going into a course like science. The high atar cut off also makes people think it's a better course even though this may not be the case at all.

A lot of people in biomed (I assume) want to go into med later on, and for some reason they believe that doing biomed will give them a better shot at getting into med, when - from what I hear - this really isn't true at all.

I agree, also higher atar for a course doesn't necessarily mean better course and opportunities.

[Ngage0]

May i ask you why people do Biomed or why its competitive if science provides almost the same course.

1) Prestige
2) UoM's awesome advertising and marketing skills

That's all

lol, Paul. He's asking in comparison to Science. Prestige and marketing skills are more of a Melbourne vs. Monash argument. But let us all not allow ourselves to enter that discussion..

Haha, if it goes into that argument, this thread will be dead.

[simpak]

So like, back on track.  There is no such thing as a true internal transfer at UoM.  I transferred from Med Comm to a Biomed offer and then to Science and all of these were done through VTAC, which is what you will also have to do.  If you attempted a midyear transfer (if possible) then your chances at entry would be more ATAR based than at the end of the year, where uni marks will count more.

PS: To get my Biomed offer at the end of the year I had all H1s excepting one ridiculous H2A and the Year 12 scores mentioned in my sig.

But it's not really worth it at all considering Biomed and Science are so similiar.  I seriously wouldn't bother.  A lot of hassle and stress for absolutely no reason.  Finish your degree normally with pretty much the same subjects.

[Russ]

OP: listen to me here: transferring is not worth it. midyear transfer won't happen, so you'll have to do it at the end of the year, which just creates a whole problem of matching the second semester subjects and then moving courses into a new cohort. it's really not worth it that much, given that you'll already be a third of the way through your degree. if you really, really must try then good luck, but if I was in your situation I would stay in the BSc, try to excel on the GAMSAT and pick a major you enjoy anyway.

Dunno about how it is in 2nd and 3rd years, but 1st year biomed didn't seem to be any harder than 1st year science. I think people just like to complain, or think that their degree is harder than other's...

First year is easy, 2nd and 3rd years are a big difficulty increase

May i ask you why people do Biomed or why its competitive if science provides almost the same course.

1) Prestige
2) UoM's awesome advertising and marketing skills

That's all

Since you have no experience of either course, you're missing out on
3) Biomedicine prepares you better for a medical degree

[paulsterio]

3) Biomedicine prepares you better for a medical degree

two quick questions:
1) Is there clinical content in BioMed, if not, how so does it prepare us better?
2) Does it help you in the selection process at all, having done BioMed?

[Russ]

1. Depending on the definition of clinical, some
2. Not afaik

I'm not sure what you're attempting to demonstrate here, but it certainly isn't that Biomedicine doesn't offer an advantage