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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2007, 05:05:19 pm »
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Well the disadvantage of that is if a student feels sick on a particular exam day they'll be screwed. SAC marks can actually make a difference in those situations, especially for subjects such as English! (Which are crucial when it comes to affecting the ENTER).
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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2007, 05:11:38 pm »
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I am all for the idea of their being more than one piece of assessment being used in the calculation of an SS.

yeah most (if not all) subject should have two exams one for each semester/unit like physics and accounting. which would make like up 45%, and 45% of the study score whilst SACs would be 10%.

lol, i couldnt see my friends doing any study for sacs if they were only worth 10%. I think that would kill any motivation the avg student has to try.
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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2007, 06:27:02 pm »
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I am all for the idea of their being more than one piece of assessment being used in the calculation of an SS.

yeah most (if not all) subject should have two exams one for each semester/unit like physics and accounting. which would make like up 45%, and 45% of the study score whilst SACs would be 10%.

lol, i couldnt see my friends doing any study for sacs if they were only worth 10%. I think that would kill any motivation the avg student has to try.

well they would have to try for the exam would they not ?

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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2007, 06:28:00 pm »
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Well the disadvantage of that is if a student feels sick on a particular exam day they'll be screwed. SAC marks can actually make a difference in those situations, especially for subjects such as English! (Which are crucial when it comes to affecting the ENTER).

well there is always a trade-off, the benefits are worth it. if anything one could have two exams in one semester, making for a total of 4 exams in a year.
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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2007, 06:34:08 pm »
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I just don't think that for subjects where there is one exam, there is enough time to adequately and accurately test a whole years learning.

Sacs are supposed to test all or most sections of the course but the point is that they aren't uniform assessments.

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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2007, 06:35:20 pm »
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if all your sacs are easy, then you revise less during the year, making it harder to revise for the exam as you haven't studied as much during the year, making your exam mark worse, bringing down your amazing sac result. If your sacs were hard, you know how much you ahve to study for the exam to improve that area.

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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2007, 07:41:47 pm »
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if all SACs are issued by VCAA, then a lot of this wouldnt become a debatable issue...
however, doing that defeat the purpose of having SACs, they'd be mini-exams in their own right, who's going to supervise? who's goin to make sure the teachers dnt "help" students for a better score?
and then it all end up very complicated...
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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2007, 07:43:58 pm »
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who's goin to make sure the teachers dnt "help" students for a better score?
and then it all end up very complicated...

it would be done just like how the exams are currently done?

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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2007, 07:47:19 pm »
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who's goin to make sure the teachers dnt "help" students for a better score?
and then it all end up very complicated...

it would be done just like how the exams are currently done?
the extra human resources required from VCAA for supervision? that would indeed be a hectic increase...

and that kinda make them mini-exams, defeating the purpose of having SACs... might as well just have exams!
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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2007, 08:12:28 pm »
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who's goin to make sure the teachers dnt "help" students for a better score?
and then it all end up very complicated...

it would be done just like how the exams are currently done?
the extra human resources required from VCAA for supervision? that would indeed be a hectic increase...

and that kinda make them mini-exams, defeating the purpose of having SACs... might as well just have exams!

well that's what i said, replace the sacs with extra exams. all subjects would have an exam at the end of each semester like accounting and physics. the extra human resources would be worth it, and anyway its not "extra" as you would have needed such human resources to supervise SACs anyway.

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Re: The comparability of SACs between schools
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2007, 11:49:22 pm »
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who's goin to make sure the teachers dnt "help" students for a better score?
and then it all end up very complicated...

it would be done just like how the exams are currently done?
the extra human resources required from VCAA for supervision? that would indeed be a hectic increase...

and that kinda make them mini-exams, defeating the purpose of having SACs... might as well just have exams!

well that's what i said, replace the sacs with extra exams. all subjects would have an exam at the end of each semester like accounting and physics. the extra human resources would be worth it, and anyway its not "extra" as you would have needed such human resources to supervise SACs anyway.
with that said, the amount of content of each subject have should be adjusted, as chemistry currently has a whole shitload of work compared to IT which has practically nothing if we split it
a downside, however, is for some subjects (such as Studio arts, IT, Design and Tech, chemistry), their entire practical section would become neglectible, unless of course VCAA decide to supervise students making tables and make that part of their exam?
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