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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2012, 10:38:49 pm »
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What do you guys think about the "Uberman" sleeping method? In case anyone is not familiar, you take six half an hour naps throughout the day and this is your sleep.

I think it relies on the idea that for the half hour you sleep at a time, you'll be in REM stage of sleep. In 8 hours, we are generally only in REM for about 2 hours so the six hours left over doesn't particularly benefit us in terms of rejuvenation.

That makes approximately 3 hours a day of REM sleep, potentially more REM sleep than someone who sleeps 8 hours at a time.

I'm not going to risk it nd try to implement such a sleeping pattern during year 12 but I'll definitely experiment during uni haha.
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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2012, 11:05:47 pm »
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You still wouldn't have enough NREM though, even if you did get REM through that method. NREM deprivation is even less desireable than REM deprivation because it is necessary for the proper functioning of your body. It's responsible for maintaining your immune system for example.
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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2012, 11:09:57 pm »
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I've recently looked into that but i don't think it will fit into most ppl's schedules so it will be hard. I know someone who has started it and is probably a month or so in and they reckon that it's awesome. The first few days to couple of weeks will be hell, but once you get use to it it is unbelievably good! The downside is that you have to keep to the sleeping schedule if you miss out by 10-15 minutes you will feel exhausted and pretty much dead for a day. lol
There are a few variations of sleeping patterns so i guess you could find one to suit yourself, but i wouldn't risk doing this during year 12 hahah
I might give it a go during the holidays...

You still wouldn't have enough NREM though, even if you did get REM through that method. NREM deprivation is even less desireable than REM deprivation because it is necessary for the proper functioning of your body. It's responsible for maintaining your immune system for example.
From what i've researched, most people find that your bodily function is greater than normal and you won't feel sleep deprived at all since you're essentially tricking your brain into thinking that you're getting more than enough sleep as you only need the x amount of REM sleep.

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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2012, 11:26:16 pm »
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Have a read of people's experiences. I believe the general consensus has been pretty much "society is not polyphasic, I can't hold up a normal job with this kind of sleeping pattern". (Because you're fucked if you miss your sleeps by too much)

http://www.xeeban.com/xeeban/archives/000003.html
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=892542
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720
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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2012, 09:48:40 am »
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From what i've researched, most people find that your bodily function is greater than normal and you won't feel sleep deprived at all since you're essentially tricking your brain into thinking that you're getting more than enough sleep as you only need the x amount of REM sleep.

What do you mean "only need the x amount of REM sleep"? You need some NREM sleep (or at least some of the stages of NREM sleep).

Anyway

Ultraman/polyphasic sleep always gets mentioned now and again, and I have never seen evidence that it is better or as efficient as the typical sleep pattern. On the contrary, the guy who sparked the whole debate by doing polyphasic sleep research specifically said that it shouldn't replace normal sleep under normal conditions, but that in periods of extreme sleep deprivation it was more suited than monophasic sleep. I suspect this is because with multiple short naps you're getting compression of the sleep cycle to provide the most benefit (also because prolonged sleep deprivation is normally shift work, where you can't sleep for 8+ hours)

There's suggestion that you can use polyphasic sleep under normal conditions because you're essentially sleeping just enough to power a few hours of wakefulness and then sleeping again (which is why missing a nap is so bad). So there isn't really a change in your day to day life, other than the need to nap every few hours. Unfortunately, missing key elements of sleep is probably bad for you. We know/suspect that missing deep sleep impacts on various things (immune competence, hypertension etc.) and also probably messes with your brain chemistry.

Sure, you can function on it, but then you have to decide whether the trade off is worth it.

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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2012, 10:51:14 am »
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Lol i don't know much about sleeping patterns and the specifics xD i just said x amount of REM cos that's all i can remember from what i've read rofl.
All i was trying to say is that it can be done and you won't know the benefits/side effects till you try.

OP don't do this in year 12. :P

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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2012, 11:35:43 am »
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Why is it that when I got to bed at 12.00am and wake up at 8.00am, i feel a shit load better than going to bed at 3.00am and waking up at 11.00am, same amount of sleep?

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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2012, 12:18:40 pm »
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Probably because your circadian rhythm is set to that time/your brain's body clock triggers at certain times? So when you push past it to stay awake it doesn't like it and starts resetting to an awake schedule, which you then interrupt? Not 100% sure, I hate the brain >.<

All i was trying to say is that it can be done and you won't know the benefits/side effects till you try.

Doesn't mean it's a good idea though.
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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2012, 05:42:05 pm »
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My study routine is pretty bad... this is it:
Monday to Friday - Too tired to do any homework. Play games instead.
Saturday and most of Sunday - Procrastinate too much.
Sunday night - Cram about 3-4 hours of homework in (or sometimes just give up and go to bed, knowing that I've done nothing the entire weekend).
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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2012, 06:50:13 pm »
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Why is it that when I got to bed at 12.00am and wake up at 8.00am, i feel a shit load better than going to bed at 3.00am and waking up at 11.00am, same amount of sleep?
One theory would suggest it's because there is generally more deep NREM sleep earlier in the night and less in cycles towards the morning, so sleep at 12:00am will be more rejuvenating than at 3:00am. (Assuming this hasn't been mentioned already in this thread)
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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2012, 07:16:47 pm »
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My study routine is pretty bad... this is it:
Monday to Friday - Too tired to do any homework. Play games instead.
Saturday and most of Sunday - Procrastinate too much.
Sunday night - Cram about 3-4 hours of homework in (or sometimes just give up and go to bed, knowing that I've done nothing the entire weekend).

How are you going with your studies though? I'm assuming your one of those who are naturally smart. :)
I can relate to what you have said btw! But I don't find any interest in games. I like to watch YouTube atheism vs theism debates lol and another interesting shit like that.

off tangent soz

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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2012, 09:12:37 pm »
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I'll let you off, just this one time. Only because you attend the "Wadiya School of Islamic Science" haha!
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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2012, 11:29:34 pm »
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My study routine is pretty bad... this is it:
Monday to Friday - Too tired to do any homework. Play games instead.
Saturday and most of Sunday - Procrastinate too much.
Sunday night - Cram about 3-4 hours of homework in (or sometimes just give up and go to bed, knowing that I've done nothing the entire weekend).

How are you going with your studies though? I'm assuming your one of those who are naturally smart. :)
I can relate to what you have said btw! But I don't find any interest in games. I like to watch YouTube atheism vs theism debates lol and another interesting shit like that.

off tangent soz

Haha I do that as well :)
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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2012, 09:56:17 am »
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does anyone have any sacs next week? If so are you planning on concentrating on them or your midyear's study.

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Re: Studying in Year 12
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2012, 11:25:35 am »
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does anyone have any sacs next week? If so are you planning on concentrating on them or your midyear's study.
No brainer really, Midyears > sacs (unless it's english, always study for english.... - unless you're a freak at it)