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khalil

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Uncertainties
« on: April 26, 2009, 01:10:42 pm »
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There are a few things I am confused about when writing analysis, I hope someone can help me out

- Instead of using 'the reader' can we use 'us'. As in, 'makes us feel anger and disgust'.

-When we are not given the specific name of a newspaper, do we assume the article is from a Melbourne newspaper?

-Can we comment on persuasice techniques that are not related to the contention?

-If we know which audience the article is written for do we mention that audience instead of saying the reader. eg. audience: parents. Persuaes parents/the reader to feel apalled by the bad behaviour of school kids.

- Can we comment on persuasive techniques that do not have a specific name. Also, can we comment on a device that has a name but not explicitly state the name of it when analysing?

- What is exclusive language. (08 examiner's report)

- The 2008 'high-scoring' example in lang analysis is written in past tense and does not include the title or type of article. Is that really allowed or do you think the person whose written it lost marks for that?

- In the 08 exam, can it be said that 'the newsletter is Volume 1, Issue 1 play's on the reader's minds making them think why there is a need for a newsletter and that a serious event may have prompted the coach to write one, therefore deepening their curiosity and prompteing them to read further'

Is the above a persuasive technique? If not can it still be included in an analysis?
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Re: Uncertainties
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 01:46:20 pm »
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1. Don't use us. Normally you wouldn't ever refer to yourself in an essay as 'I', and 'us' pretty much has the same effect by referencing yourself. Stick to keeping it in perspective of the reader.
2. No. Often if it's not given, it's just a generic article they've doctored themselves which is easier to analyse than most actual newspaper articles. Why does it matter though?
3. Depends. Either you're not reading far enough into the technique to see how it relates to the contention, or the article is just badly written. Still, in either case, I can see cases where you could or wouldn't.
4. I'd still use the reader since other people can read it too. It's just that for example, parents would be the MAIN audience.
5. Of course. However, don't start making up names for these techniques. Teachers HATE when people do that. My teacher gave a list of ones she collated over a few years...quite hilarious to listen to really. And as for not naming, that's actually what you should be doing most of the time. You don't want to be too explicit in 'labelling' techniques.
6. From my understanding, exclusive language could most easily be identified just by the absence of inclusive language (e.g. 'we' should...)? Someone correct me if my understanding is wrong though...
7. Honestly they shouldn't be using past tense, and the title and type should be there. They might have lost marks here, and like I've said many times before, the high scoring responses are usually around an 8 or so - not full marks.
8. Looks like you're reading too far into it in my opinion. There could be plenty of other reasons why, and honestly, does anyone actually think like that? Even if that was true, it's just a formality in terms of structure, and not language that was used specifically chosen with the intention of persuading in the way you mentioned.
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Re: Uncertainties
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 06:46:52 pm »
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For 8. I just wanted to analyse something unique :(

Also, when writing anlysis's, can we sometimes say where the persuasive device is located. eg. in the second paragraph, the writer uses inclusive lang.....

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Re: Uncertainties
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 07:07:18 pm »
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Location of the device doesn't really matter if you've quoted the words you were meant to. A good analysis should pretty much make sense even if the examiner didn't have the article to look at.
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Re: Uncertainties
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 07:17:09 pm »
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I think that last bit is you trying to find a "unique" technique that others wouldn't see. I bet if you read an article with that, it wouldn't make you think like that. As for exclusive language.. I thought it was language that might include only a specific group of people, meaning other groups are not apart of whatever the author may be discussing.
Not sure if this is a great example, but maybe if an author goes like " ______ day is a historical commemoration of "these people" who fought for our country and died, and therefore should only be celebrated by true ______ and not those that immigrated here"
Basically, fillling in the gaps with a nation/nationality. While writing this, I was just thinking... use of language to exclude people, also includes other people doesn't it? EG: Isolating a certain nationality means that you're including that audience but excluding anyone else? or have I completely confused myself :S?