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Last minute questions?
« on: June 12, 2012, 12:19:12 pm »
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1) I've always had some sort of a problem splitting up structures for identifying fragments in IR spec...
HCOOCH(CH3)2

Can't that split into OCH(CH3)2 for a peak at a m/e ratio of 59?
It adds up to 59 hah but yeah i know it looks weird...and someone can tell me the best to identify fragments please :(

2) 3-bromo-2-methyl-pentane
or 2-methyl-3-bromopentane? which is right...

3) Also glucose can be broken down to produce alcohol, name this type of reaction.
I did fermentation
but the answers say Oxidation or redox
and then give the fermentation equation...Is that also right or something?



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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2012, 12:34:13 pm »
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for number 2, its definitely 3-bromo-2-methyl pentane, always do functional groups in alphabetical orer
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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 12:39:06 pm »
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1) I've always had some sort of a problem splitting up structures for identifying fragments in IR spec...
HCOOCH(CH3)2

Can't that split into OCH(CH3)2 for a peak at a m/e ratio of 59?
It adds up to 59 hah but yeah i know it looks weird...and someone can tell me the best to identify fragments please :(

2) 3-bromo-2-methyl-pentane
or 2-methyl-3-bromopentane? which is right...

3) Also glucose can be broken down to produce alcohol, name this type of reaction.
I did fermentation
but the answers say Oxidation or redox
and then give the fermentation equation...Is that also right or something?




3- Was this from a trial exam- if it is, I would say yes fermentation would also be correct (if it was VCAA, then I guess not)

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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2012, 02:10:21 pm »
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It was and yes it might be wrong but just asking if it might also be called that maybe..

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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2012, 02:23:49 pm »
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Just to confirm, reactions between alkanes and fluorine gas don't require a catalyst like alkanes and chlorine/bromine gas, right?
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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2012, 02:27:52 pm »
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Whats the catalyst for bromine gas?
and i don't think i've come across a reaction between flurione and alkanes .. LOL
and between isomers do physical AND chemical properties change or just physical?

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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2012, 03:02:16 pm »
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Chemical properties too. For example only primary alcohols can be oxidised to give carboxylic acids, and tertiary alcohols can't be oxidised at all.

I think the catalyst for bromine gas is light as well.
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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 04:19:19 pm »
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what does hydrogenation do in a triglyceride

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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 04:24:01 pm »
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what does hydrogenation do in a triglyceride
converts the unsaturated fatty acid component into a saturated fatty acid
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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2012, 04:32:18 pm »
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1) I've always had some sort of a problem splitting up structures for identifying fragments in IR spec...
HCOOCH(CH3)2

Can't that split into OCH(CH3)2 for a peak at a m/e ratio of 59?
It adds up to 59 hah but yeah i know it looks weird...and someone can tell me the best to identify fragments please

that split is definitely possible

2) 3-bromo-2-methyl-pentane
or 2-methyl-3-bromopentane? which is right...

3-bromo-2-methyl-pentane is right, always alphabetical order


3) Also glucose can be broken down to produce alcohol, name this type of reaction.
I did fermentation
but the answers say Oxidation or redox
and then give the fermentation equation...Is that also right or something?

fermentation is right lol, but the fermentation itself is an oxidation  but you should be able to say fermentation

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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 04:36:47 pm »
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3) Also glucose can be broken down to produce alcohol, name this type of reaction.
I did fermentation
but the answers say Oxidation or redox
and then give the fermentation equation...Is that also right or something?

fermentation is right lol, but the fermentation itself is an oxidation  but you should be able to say fermentation



You should really say oxidation, in bio 'fermentation' would be fine, but oxidation is more correct in chem

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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2012, 04:38:22 pm »
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You should really say oxidation, in bio 'fermentation' would be fine, but oxidation is more correct in chem

Pfft they'd call it fermentation in biochem :P That's chem!
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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 07:33:24 pm »
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Chemical properties too. For example only primary alcohols can be oxidised to give carboxylic acids, and tertiary alcohols can't be oxidised at all.

I think the catalyst for bromine gas is light as well.

Well that's not entirely true. Tertiary alcohols can be combusted and this is technically oxidation.

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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2012, 07:43:09 pm »
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Touche.
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Re: Last minute questions?
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 07:51:45 pm »
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haha, would i be able to write on a vcaa exam, tertiary alcohols cannot be oxisdised at all?

so scared.........