Forced abortion

[Flying Emu]

She did say "...should be required to give a good reason to the satisfaction of the doctor.".

Being completely "pro-abortion for many of the reasons" is kind of narrow minded. There could be perfectly moral reasons which could prove to be the greatest benefit if the abortion goes ahead.

No she (well actually I'm pretty sure he's a guy haha) didn't, that was Special. And I'm not completely pro-abortion, but I don't understand what you said after that (sounds like you're saying there are situations where abortion could be a good thing, but that's a bit contradictory to what you were saying?).

Oops that was S@S xD. My bad.

Anyway how is abortion a good thing in certain situations contradicting anything i said? I never said abortion was a definitely good or bad thing, there are always exceptions. Perhaps watch the slippery slope.

[ktrah]

Yeah I definitely agree, but I was referring to this comment:

Being completely "pro-abortion for many of the reasons" is kind of narrow minded. There could be perfectly moral reasons which could prove to be the greatest benefit if the abortion goes ahead.

The second sentence doesn't support what you said first because it's saying abortion could be a good thing, which is pro-abortion. But I think I see what you mean and I agree (I'm not completely pro-abortion).

[Flying Emu]

Oh fail.. I was thinking of pro-life. I should go to bed earlier...

[enwiabe]

How is polygamy evil? Wut.

I just personally don't like it, I reckon one partner at a time, idk, just personal
Not that I don't accept other views, but I just feel that for me, I wouldn't want to be sharing partners, if you know what I mean.

Would other people engaging in polygamy affect your life negatively? Would it cause you to become polygamous like some sort of contagious infection?

After you have answered these questions "no", please explain to me how it would be in any way evil.

"It gives me the heeby jeebies" is not an acceptable answer.

[Flying Emu]

How is polygamy evil? Wut.

I just personally don't like it, I reckon one partner at a time, idk, just personal
Not that I don't accept other views, but I just feel that for me, I wouldn't want to be sharing partners, if you know what I mean.

Would other people engaging in polygamy affect your life negatively? Would it cause you to become polygamous like some sort of contagious infection?

After you have answered these questions "no", please explain to me how it would be in any way evil.

"It gives me the heeby jeebies" is not an acceptable answer.

We've covered that point:

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it evil =/

I know I know, it was too much of a knee-jerk reaction from me, just because in Australia polygamy is illegal. Just reminded me of girlfriends/boyfriends cheating, ugh, bad images.

Sorry

[Russ]

Cleaned this up. Stop talking about nonsense or I will abort you.

Carry on.

[JellyDonut]

A single law, not an entire government arm. Anyway we have plenty of people to watch over breeding habits (hence we get data like the one u just posted).

"local family planning bureau". A law which is enforced by said bureau.

"you're only speeding up a process that is already occurring" [China's falling fertility rates]. So I'm helping the over population problem now am I?

Not necessarily, there are other factors which can contribute to declining birth rates. For example, the one child policy, which was introduced in 1979, does not explain the drop in fertility rates from 6 to 3 (1965 to 1979). In actual fact, from 1980 to 2012, the fertility rate has only dropped by around 1 and it isn't even clear whether the policy caused it.

"Far more worthwhile than developing an entire government arm just to watch over people's breeding habits." So your agreeing with it.

Context, buddy. Why would I agree with your point?

[paulsterio]

Would other people engaging in polygamy affect your life negatively? Would it cause you to become polygamous like some sort of contagious infection?

After you have answered these questions "no", please explain to me how it would be in any way evil.

"It gives me the heeby jeebies" is not an acceptable answer.

No no, I know, I didn't mean to say polygamy is evil, it was a knee jerk reaction like I've explained

Anyways, as Russ says, back to the topic.

So before we continue, does anyone (who knows about it) want to expand on the one-child policy, what exactly are the rules and what is the usual penalty for having multiple children?

[Flying Emu]

A single law, not an entire government arm. Anyway we have plenty of people to watch over breeding habits (hence we get data like the one u just posted).

"local family planning bureau". A law which is enforced by said bureau.

"you're only speeding up a process that is already occurring" [China's falling fertility rates]. So I'm helping the over population problem now am I?

Not necessarily, there are other factors which can contribute to declining birth rates. For example, the one child policy, which was introduced in 1979, does not explain the drop in fertility rates from 6 to 3 (1965 to 1979). In actual fact, from 1980 to 2012, the fertility rate has only dropped by around 1 and it isn't even clear whether the policy caused it.

"Far more worthwhile than developing an entire government arm just to watch over people's breeding habits." So your agreeing with it.

Context, buddy. Why would I agree with your point?

Read back on your post. That's what your making it sound like. Oh wait, you removed it.

So if were done here about empty philosophical debates, I've got studying to do.

[ninwa]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-15/chinese-authorities-apologise-for-forced-abortion/4072888