SEAS

[WhoTookMyUsername]

I'm applying for SEAS
Thanks

[Russ]

Write your own statement and get your doctor to sign it / write it out and print it on their letterhead
VTAC only let you submit one afaik and I don't see the value in more

For 5) in theory yes, in practice it's a lot more murky. Depends a lot (a lot) on what you actually get I would think.
For 6) Monash don't consider SEAS for UMAT at all, they might for for ATAR but that depends (this was correct 3 years ago, not 100% sure on now)

VTAC say no, you'll have to trust them on that

Your doctor won't be able to see you VTAC app, they just write the supporting doc

Submit the scholarship app, there's no reason not to. You probably won't get one, but hey, any chance is better than none

12) email VTAC and ask, or ask if you can attach a doc/send a physical letter

[Bowza]

Curius, What about the 'Vice Chancellors Access Monash Scholars Scheme'?

'Students who meet the eligibility criteria but who do not achieve the required UMAT score will receive special consideration of their UMAT result'

http://www.monash.edu.au/access/vc-scheme.html

(I can't find the updated scheme but it's still the same)

[pi]

5) Very very unlikely. I know people with 99.85 (literally a decimal off 99.90) with SEAS and UoM didn't take them into Biomed or Science -> MD. There are so many 99.90+s in Australia who want to do Med.

6) Yes, if you are part of the Vice-Chancellors scheme http://www.monash.edu.au/access/vc-scheme.html . Other than that, only second round interviews for those with 99.95 (ie. Excellence scholarship recipients), SEAS plays a role after interviews have been given but not to a large extent given that it only influences the ATAR requirement (ie. 33% of the criteria).

10) For an Excellence scholarship, the unis will approach you, you don't have to do anything. I think there are Equity scholarships (for Monash - not sure on UoM) that you can apply for.


"Also does the 20 hours of community service in year 10 count as having been "active in community service"" Probably not, but if you have nothing to write, write that.

"And for "How will a scholarship benefit your 2013 studies" what should i write? Relieve some financial burden?" Well if you are applying based on a illness, you probably shouldn't bring other things into it. It's more of a personal question though.

[pi]

And i don't think i'm eligible for VC scheme am I? (no financial disad, no indigineous heritage)

Probably not then.

However, i AM eligible for Dean's Rural List (having spent 6 years in shepparton). Could SEAS help me for Dean's Rural List interviews? (which can slightly reduce UMAT cut off i think?)

If you are eligible for this, welcome to Monash Med

Like seriously, if you eligible, you will get in. There's a guy in with 90 atar and 70%ile UMAT just because he's on this list, it's a very easy way to get into med.

[brenden]

Any possible reasons why I'm "strongly advised" to apply for category 1 seas as well? I lived did half a dozen primary school years in shepparton, could this be why? Does VTAC even have access to this information? I don't remember putting it in... Could it be a system glitch? Advising me to apply for med condition but saying category 1 instead?

I don't think it would be a glitch. Everyone at my school got the same message (however the message does apply to our school.)
Perhaps everyone gets it on the off-chance they go to an underrepresented school. Plus, if it says tick it, you may as well - they can only add aggregate points so may as well.

[Lasercookie]

Any possible reasons why I'm "strongly advised" to apply for category 1 seas as well?

Everyone gets that message. Category one covers all your personal details, age, location etc.

http://www.wss8.vtac.edu.au/who/seas/categories/category1.html

Category one is designed for applicants who wish to be considered for all circumstances that can be based upon information already provided in their registration and/or course application

My guess is something along the lines that VTAC isn't allowed to automatically use that personal data without your permission.

[Russ]

Say that it will mean you won't have to work to support yourself etc. A small chance at getting one is better than no chance.

 Yes they are, as long as they do the pre reqs

[Lasercookie]

1) I extremely doubt any of my personal details (cat 1) will get me SEAS (except for DRL which isn't through SEAS) so i'll probably just not apply for that , does that sound reasonable :S ?

I don't see why you wouldn't apply, especially since VTAC strongly encourages anyone applying for SEAS to apply for it (might aid applications or something, I dunno how their process works). It's just 'tick yes', it requires next to no effort on your part

[paulsterio]

Honestly I think apply for SEAS if you actually have been disadvantaged in your VCE, but if not, then there's no point really.

[Lasercookie]

Honestly I think apply for SEAS if you actually have been disadvantaged in your VCE, but if not, then there's no point really.

From what I gathered, that Question 2 from his last post was asking about the scholarship application form, and not the SEAS application form.

[Lasercookie]

I've just been informed by my careers adviser that melbourne does not look at vtac scholarship applications for access melbourne, can anyone confirm this?

Access Melbourne is the phrase Melbourne use for their special entry stuff. You apply for Access Melbourne through SEAS. The Access Melbourne categories also correspond directly to the SEAS categories too.

[Lasercookie]

1) I think I found that Melbourne Access scholarship you were talking about. The application process at the bottom does list 'scholarship application' and 'seas application' separately, but then at the top they say "Scholarship applicants must apply for a course place using the SEAS application on the VTAC website"?
http://services.unimelb.edu.au/scholarships/ugrad/future/access#process

Not all of the scholarships list that same 'application process' though, so I would just say 'yes', fill out the scholarship form to be on the safe side.

My careers adviser also indicated that vtac scholarship application is for financial disadvantage predominantly, which i am not eligible for....i'll save myself the time and not apply for anything at all (as i'm not eligible)

One argument is that you don't know you're not eligible, you're just thinking that you might not be. If you really want a scholarship, why would you exclude yourself from it without even knowing how VTAC / the unis will interpret your application.

Also, the scholarships form covers much more than simply financial disadvantage. For example, for Monash, It seems that "most" of the 'merit' ones are covered by simply applying for courses, whereas some of the equity ones also cover all the SEAS categories (including medical condition / difficult circumstances etc. for some of them) requires the scholarship application.

Not for financial disadvantage in particular, but you can see that you would be excluding yourself from a bit more than that for no good reason really.

Just clicked on a few random links from Monash and they happened to be ones that do cover more than 'financial disadvantage':
http://www.monash.edu.au/study/scholarships/equity/support.html
http://www.monash.edu.au/study/scholarships/equity/medicine-nursing-health.html

[HERculina]

Well I'm getting my statement of support done on the 8th of October, and going to the city directly after that to hand it in at VTAC centre. I'd still make it before the deadline right? Cause that's when my next appointment is and it's a public hospital, very hard to get things rescheduled.
I had my impact statement done ages ago too, just waiting to get the statement of support done on time.
And I reckon that it gets automatically withdrawn cause you have no evidence. Or they keep your impact statement but you know when they give you points for the strength of your problem, you get zero. But this is just a guess.

[WhoTookMyUsername]

If we submit a seas impact statement but din't get a statement of support in on time what happens to our seas application? Is it just automatically withdrawn?
Also
Does anyone know where i can find more info regarding Dean's Rural List?
How much does it help? Is it weighted (i.e. whole lifetime in middle of outback compared to a reasonably rural place like bendigo)
Does it mainly only help for getting in to bonded / ERC?
Thanks!