Difference between Variable Ratio and Random Ration?

[HiddenUser]

I understand that VR has an upper limit that will be reached after receiving reinforcement at unpredictable times, and also that each response in RR each hold independent chances to those previously.

But I was still confused when the book stated "(RR10)". (VR10) refers to to reinforcement occurring 10 times within a set upper limit at unpredictable times. What would RR10 be then?

Can anyone clarify and explain it more clearly?

Thanks.

[betruetoyou22]

I understand that VR has an upper limit that will be reached after receiving reinforcement at unpredictable times, and also that each response in RR each hold independent chances to those previously.

But I was still confused when the book stated "(RR10)". (VR10) refers to to reinforcement occurring 10 times within a set upper limit at unpredictable times. What would RR10 be then?

Can anyone clarify and explain it more clearly?

Thanks.

OMG, I need help with this too
I don't get how Random ratio responses are "held independantly of each other" - do you understand what that means?

[shaiga95]

RR(10) means that the average winning responses over a large amount of responses should be 1 in 10 but can occur unpredictably where as by VR there is a predetermined upper limit
 

[betruetoyou22]

RR(10) means that the average winning responses over a large amount of responses should be 1 in 10 but can occur unpredictably where as by VR there is a predetermined upper limit

Can you actually give me an example?? I don't get how in RR, the responses occur "independantly of each other"

[brenden]

RR(10) means that the average winning responses over a large amount of responses should be 1 in 10 but can occur unpredictably where as by VR there is a predetermined upper limit

Can you actually give me an example?? I don't get how in RR, the responses occur "independantly of each other"

Okay, so for a Variable Ratio, there has to be an average that reinforcement is given in. So, if the ratio is set at 1 x Reinforcement for an average of 50 responses and you do one response and get the reinforcement straight away, you might try another 99 responses before you get more reinforcement, which would mean you got 2 x Reinforcement for the 100 responses. Thus, the average is 50. In this scenario, the reinforcement is dependent on previous reinforcement. Eg, if on your first response you  got reinforcement, and you're about to do your 98th response, then there is an extremely high likelihood that you will get reinforcement for the next response, as the average of 50 has to be kept, and there hasn't been reinforcement for the previous responses. So = dependent.
A Random Ratio is literally random. There is no average reinforcement to meet. So, if there is a 1 out of 1,000,000 chance that you will get reinforcement for a response, then that does not mean that if you give that response 1,000,000 times then you will receive reinforcement. Because for EACH INDIVIDUAL RESPONSE, the chances are the same and not dependent on anything else, so they are independent of each other.

[HiddenUser]

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A Random Ratio is literally random. There is no average reinforcement to meet. So, if there is a 1 out of 1,000,000 chance that you will get reinforcement for a response, then that does not mean that if you give that response 1,000,000 times then you will receive reinforcement.
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So what RRx would that be?