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Two Films - Allowed?
« on: October 18, 2012, 04:11:48 pm »
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Just took a look at the study design and apparently we can't do use two or more films in the pieces. Is this true?
My teacher said to disregard it and that it only applied if you did the same film for context and text but the wording says different.
So confused...and I'm completely screwed now if I can't =/

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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 04:35:26 pm »
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??? As far as I know you are correct.

The wording from VCAA, to which I'm sure you're probably referring, seems unambiguous to me:

"A film text may be selected from List 1 or List 2 but not both. Students are not permitted to write on more than one film in the examination."

I'm sure you're NOT screwed but, yeh, you might need to readjust slightly. I think adjusting on the Context is easier than the Text Analysis, though, depending on your prep.
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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 05:32:26 pm »
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My teacher announced this to use today - she said that you're not allowed to do a text response AND context piece on a film in the exam, one must be a physical text. 
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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 05:34:47 pm »
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Be very careful with this, if you select a film text for both Section A and B you'll be awarded zero for the second film text piece. The head of English at my school drummed this into us because she was involved in finalising the marks for the final exam for students who had major discrepancies with their SAC marks. One student wrote on two films and she said it was sad but she had to give him zero for the second piece even though she said she would have given it full marks. You need to choose the one that you think you'll do better on, but definitely don't select 2 films texts. You're not screwed, there's still time to fix this! I'd probably keep the film text for Section A and switch to a book for Section B.
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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 06:03:22 pm »
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Be very careful with this, if you select a film text for both Section A and B you'll be awarded zero for the second film text piece. The head of English at my school drummed this into us because she was involved in finalising the marks for the final exam for students who had major discrepancies with their SAC marks. One student wrote on two films and she said it was sad but she had to give him zero for the second piece even though she said she would have given it full marks. You need to choose the one that you think you'll do better on, but definitely don't select 2 films texts. You're not screwed, there's still time to fix this! I'd probably keep the film text for Section A and switch to a book for Section B.

sorry to be annoying but could you explain this simply ? thanks

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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 06:23:21 pm »
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This doesn't really fit the issue, but for context piece would it be unwise to talk about a film found on the text/film list and another film which is used as an external example? So eg., "The Player" and "Harry Potter"(obviously not this film though).

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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 07:20:01 pm »
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This doesn't really fit the issue, but for context piece would it be unwise to talk about a film found on the text/film list and another film which is used as an external example? So eg., "The Player" and "Harry Potter"(obviously not this film though).

Sounds like a weak approach. Try to focus on the historical context of the films, rather than the film itself.
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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 07:36:51 pm »
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Be very careful with this, if you select a film text for both Section A and B you'll be awarded zero for the second film text piece. The head of English at my school drummed this into us because she was involved in finalising the marks for the final exam for students who had major discrepancies with their SAC marks. One student wrote on two films and she said it was sad but she had to give him zero for the second piece even though she said she would have given it full marks. You need to choose the one that you think you'll do better on, but definitely don't select 2 films texts. You're not screwed, there's still time to fix this! I'd probably keep the film text for Section A and switch to a book for Section B.

sorry to be annoying but could you explain this simply ? thanks
Pretty easy, when you write on a film (as your major source) on Section A and B you will get 0 marks on Section B

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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 07:42:27 pm »
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sorry to be annoying but could you explain this simply ? thanks

Nobody really understands VCAA's decisions and rules sometimes and we're not VCAA so we can speculate as much as we want, but we'll never really know why they decided on this rule.

Hmm, my take is to just change for context, it shouldn't be too hard, remember that context essays are about the big ideas moreso than the intricate details of the text (you won't need to know quotes or anything like that) and the themes between the many context texts should be similar. Either way for context, you should be able to draw ideas from both your texts as some prompts lend themselves better to a certain text.

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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 08:13:30 pm »
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Now I'm even more confused. Can we mention another film AT ALL for context?
Even if it's just the themes because I always do imaginary for my context.
So let's just say the majority of my piece is based on a book but I still have a bit on the film.
Will the film bit be disregarded or will it be okay because the main text I'm referring to is the book?
Or maybe if I switch the names of my characters to that of the book and...
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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 08:46:11 pm »
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Now I'm even more confused. Can we mention another film AT ALL for context?
Even if it's just the themes because I always do imaginary for my context.
So let's just say the majority of my piece is based on a book but I still have a bit on the film.
Will the film bit be disregarded or will it be okay because the main text I'm referring to is the book?
Or maybe if I switch the names of my characters to that of the book and...
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As long as the film you mention isn't on the VCAA text list and a "book" is written at the top of the page as your source material, you'll be all good.
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Re: Two Films - Allowed?
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 08:49:24 pm »
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Just took a look at the study design and apparently we can't do use two or more films in the pieces. Is this true?
My teacher said to disregard it and that it only applied if you did the same film for context and text but the wording says different.
So confused...and I'm completely screwed now if I can't =/

just don't do it
stick to one and do it properly
you don't want it to seem like a text response
anyway, you have to nominate which one you are talking about and one will fit the prompt better than the other
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