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Encountering conflict making up examples? Good or bad idea?

And also anybody have any secondary resources for encountering conflict

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Re: When writing context- can you make up examples as a paragraph point?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2012, 03:41:06 pm »
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If this is an expository essay, it might be a bit risky making up examples. I went to an English lecture, and the lady said that once she marked a context essay, and it included something that happened in history. But she was a history teacher, and knew that some of the stuff the student wrote wasn't completely right, and she got put off.
So to be in the safe side, I'd still with real facts in an essay, cause you never know who'll end up marking your work.

If you're talking about examples like, this man and this other man had a fight and blablabla, that's more for creative writing/hybrids/persuasive.
In my piece I've made up one 'quote' from a character from the text I'm doing, still in the same way the character would say it, but she doesn't actually say it in the story.
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Re: When writing context- can you make up examples as a paragraph point?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 03:50:11 pm »
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If this is an expository essay, it might be a bit risky making up examples. I went to an English lecture, and the lady said that once she marked a context essay, and it included something that happened in history. But she was a history teacher, and knew that some of the stuff the student wrote wasn't completely right, and she got put off.
So to be in the safe side, I'd still with real facts in an essay, cause you never know who'll end up marking your work.

If you're talking about examples like, this man and this other man had a fight and blablabla, that's more for creative writing/hybrids/persuasive.
In my piece I've made up one 'quote' from a character from the text I'm doing, still in the same way the character would say it, but she doesn't actually say it in the story.

Agree, however my mate made up a great example about an asylum seeker and conflict in a SAC and he got a high mark. His example was so good, the teacher made him read it out loud to the class. Our teacher couldn't work out why we were laughing.

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Re: When writing context- can you make up examples as a paragraph point?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2012, 04:03:48 pm »
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Bad idea. You are supposed to be drawing ideas from reality/society.
What is you text? I can give you some examples.
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Re: When writing context- can you make up examples as a paragraph point?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 05:00:40 pm »
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You are supposed to be drawing ideas from reality/society.
I could be missing something here, but I don't see where you're actually basing that claim.

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/english/2009Eng-crit-descriptors-V2.pdf
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Section B – Writing in Context (Creating and presenting)
• understanding and effective exploration of the ideas and/or arguments relevant to the prompt/stimulus
material
• effective use of detail and ideas drawn from the selected text as appropriate to the task
• development in the writing of a coherent and effective structure in response to the task, showing an
understanding of the relationship between purpose, form, language and audience
• controlled use of language appropriate to the purpose, form and audience

If it's being inspired by the text and if it explores the prompt properly, then is it not ticking the boxes on where you're supposed to draw ideas from?

I guess in terms of an academic, formal expository essay, you'd want to be grounded with proper, valid evidence - but that's not necessarily the form you have to write in. You could interpret 'expository' as something looser than that. It's permissible to write imaginative and if you really wanted to discuss what's appropriate to what form, you could file it away under expository-imaginative or something along those lines.

I think an issue would be if your made up scenario or whatever is unrealistic, or just seems too convenient for what you're trying to prove. You might fall into a trap of trying to say whatever you please - stuff that might not necessarily be valid statements - or end up trying to provide a weak defence of a weak argument. You'd want to concoct believable examples.
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Re: When writing context- can you make up examples as a paragraph point?
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 05:19:05 pm »
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You don't have to mention society in your expository essays, but it is looked upon highly if you are able to link your piece to reality. I'm positive you can write an expository prose based only on the text and receive a decent mark.

 If you created your own story or personal account there's nothing wrong with that, either. In my creative writing SAC I created a completely new situation and received full marks for it. None of it was true, but it linked directly with the text.
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Re: When writing context- can you make up examples as a paragraph point?
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2012, 05:27:03 pm »
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You don't have to mention society in your expository essays, but it is looked upon highly if you are able to link your piece to reality. I'm positive you can write an expository prose based only on the text and receive a decent mark.

 If you created your own story or personal account there's nothing wrong with that, either. In my creative writing SAC I created a completely new situation and received full marks for it. None of it was true, but it linked directly with the text.

I'm only talking about expository here The but basing on just the text seems like a really bad idea. If I just talked about the characters in Crucible for the whole essay, it would suck.

Laseredd: Sorry, my response was really broad and kinda crappy.  :-[ I was just referring to expository and I worded it odd. Creative, you can let loose and talk about quite a lot but an easy way to do an expository is to draw ideas from the text and link these ideas to other issues.
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Re: When writing context- can you make up examples as a paragraph point?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 05:29:57 pm »
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You don't have to mention society in your expository essays, but it is looked upon highly if you are able to link your piece to reality. I'm positive you can write an expository prose based only on the text and receive a decent mark.

 If you created your own story or personal account there's nothing wrong with that, either. In my creative writing SAC I created a completely new situation and received full marks for it. None of it was true, but it linked directly with the text.

I'm only talking about expository here The but basing on just the text seems like a really bad idea. If I just talked about the characters in Crucible for the whole essay, it would suck.

Laseredd: Sorry, my response was really broad and kinda crappy.  :-[ I was just referring to expository and I worded it odd. Creative, you can let loose and talk about quite a lot but an easy way to do an expository is to draw ideas from the text and link these ideas to other issues.
Oh yes definitely, I wrote an expository essay for my Crucible sac and I talked about:
  • The Quiet American - Grahame Greene
  • Nineteen Eighty Four - George Orwell
  • McCarthyism
  • Communist Regimes
  • Vietnam War

For an expository to be interesting i'd say you almost always have to talk about other examples of conflict. However, I could be wrong. You may be able to write one on just the text and get away with it. It would be hard, but not impossible.
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