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Garcia and Koelling
« on: October 30, 2012, 04:40:20 pm »
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can someone explain the Garcia and Koelling study? It so confusing...

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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2012, 05:23:42 pm »
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Sure! I love that one!  ;)

Preconditioning stage:
ALL rats were presented with saccharin water to drink, which activated clicking noises and flashing lights. They still drank the water.

Conditioning phase:
Condition one: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and an ELECTRIC SHOCK.
Condition two: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and radiation that was intended to make them sick 30 min later.

Test phase:
There was plain water with the clicks and lights. There was saccharin all by itself.
Condition one rats: Would NOT drink the plain water (they associated clicks and lights with pain) but they would drink saccharin water.
Condition two rats: Would drink the plain water but would NOT drink the saccharin water because they had developed a taste aversion.
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 06:56:18 pm »
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I think there's a high chance this will come up on the exam (probably short-answer), if the results for the multi-choice question on it last year are anything to go by.
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 07:04:46 pm »
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I think there's a high chance this will come up on the exam (probably short-answer), if the results for the multi-choice question on it last year are anything to go by.
I'm glad then. It's the best.  ;D
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2012, 07:06:37 pm »
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I think there's a high chance this will come up on the exam (probably short-answer), if the results for the multi-choice question on it last year are anything to go by.
I'm glad then. It's the best;D

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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2012, 07:08:17 pm »
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I think there's a high chance this will come up on the exam (probably short-answer), if the results for the multi-choice question on it last year are anything to go by.
I'm glad then. It's the best;D

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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2012, 07:09:33 pm »
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I think there's a high chance this will come up on the exam (probably short-answer), if the results for the multi-choice question on it last year are anything to go by.
I'm glad then. It's the best;D

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Ha. Everyone hates it because at first it is super confusing but once you get it, it all makes sense - like the insightful experience stage of insight learning!  ;)
Except I haven't looked at it for months so I think I've forgotten.  :P I don't think my teacher even covered it which made it that bit more enjoyable for me to learn at the time...
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2012, 07:10:02 pm »
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I have been struggling with this experiment as well, but I think it just clicked! So basically the rats in the first condition learnt to associate the electric shock with clicking and lights? But the rats in the second condition developed a taste aversion and associated the illness with the water..? I still find this one so difficult!
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2012, 07:11:07 pm »
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I have been struggling with this experiment as well, but I think it just clicked! So basically the rats in the first condition learnt to associate the electric shock with clicking and lights? But the rats in the second condition developed a taste aversion and associated the illness with the water..? I still find this one so difficult!
Insightful experience...? I think so!!!  :P Yup, you are correct!
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2012, 07:17:02 pm »
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Yes exactly Felicty, was actually thinking about that when I wrote it! YAY thank you I have struggled with this study!!! WOO
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2012, 07:23:08 pm »
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Yes exactly Felicty, was actually thinking about that when I wrote it! YAY thank you I have struggled with this study!!! WOO

Aw, no problems!
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 04:43:25 pm »
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Sure! I love that one!  ;)

Preconditioning stage:
ALL rats were presented with saccharin water to drink, which activated clicking noises and flashing lights. They still drank the water.

Conditioning phase:
Condition one: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and an ELECTRIC SHOCK.
Condition two: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and radiation that was intended to make them sick 30 min later.

Test phase:
There was plain water with the clicks and lights. There was saccharin all by itself.
Condition one rats: Would NOT drink the plain water (they associated clicks and lights with pain) but they would drink saccharin water.
Condition two rats: Would drink the plain water but would NOT drink the saccharin water because they had developed a taste aversion.

Sorry but I'm still confused abut it! Why wouldn't the condition 2 rats form a taste aversion to the plain water, if it was presented with the clicks and lights, wouldn't they expect the radiation as well?

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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 05:01:09 pm »
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Sure! I love that one!  ;)

Preconditioning stage:
ALL rats were presented with saccharin water to drink, which activated clicking noises and flashing lights. They still drank the water.

Conditioning phase:
Condition one: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and an ELECTRIC SHOCK.
Condition two: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and radiation that was intended to make them sick 30 min later.

Test phase:
There was plain water with the clicks and lights. There was saccharin all by itself.
Condition one rats: Would NOT drink the plain water (they associated clicks and lights with pain) but they would drink saccharin water.
Condition two rats: Would drink the plain water but would NOT drink the saccharin water because they had developed a taste aversion.

Sorry but I'm still confused abut it! Why wouldn't the condition 2 rats form a taste aversion to the plain water, if it was presented with the clicks and lights, wouldn't they expect the radiation as well?


The illness-inducing radiation was only ever paired with saccharine-flavoured water, so there wouldn't be any reason for them to develop a taste aversion towards the unflavoured water  :)
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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 05:21:45 pm »
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Sure! I love that one!  ;)

Preconditioning stage:
ALL rats were presented with saccharin water to drink, which activated clicking noises and flashing lights. They still drank the water.

Conditioning phase:
Condition one: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and an ELECTRIC SHOCK.
Condition two: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and radiation that was intended to make them sick 30 min later.

Test phase:
There was plain water with the clicks and lights. There was saccharin all by itself.
Condition one rats: Would NOT drink the plain water (they associated clicks and lights with pain) but they would drink saccharin water.
Condition two rats: Would drink the plain water but would NOT drink the saccharin water because they had developed a taste aversion.

Sorry but I'm still confused abut it! Why wouldn't the condition 2 rats form a taste aversion to the plain water, if it was presented with the clicks and lights, wouldn't they expect the radiation as well?


The illness-inducing radiation was only ever paired with saccharine-flavoured water, so there wouldn't be any reason for them to develop a taste aversion towards the unflavoured water  :)

Yay thank you!! That makes sense now!

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Re: Garcia and Koelling
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 06:25:40 pm »
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Sure! I love that one!  ;)

Preconditioning stage:
ALL rats were presented with saccharin water to drink, which activated clicking noises and flashing lights. They still drank the water.

Conditioning phase:
Condition one: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and an ELECTRIC SHOCK.
Condition two: Rats presented with saccharin water, clicking, lights and radiation that was intended to make them sick 30 min later.

Test phase:
There was plain water with the clicks and lights. There was saccharin all by itself.
Condition one rats: Would NOT drink the plain water (they associated clicks and lights with pain) but they would drink saccharin water.
Condition two rats: Would drink the plain water but would NOT drink the saccharin water because they had developed a taste aversion.

Sorry but I'm still confused abut it! Why wouldn't the condition 2 rats form a taste aversion to the plain water, if it was presented with the clicks and lights, wouldn't they expect the radiation as well?
TASTE aversion, remember? They have associated the sickness with the taste of the sweet water.
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