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[Deleted User]

Is it wrong to wholeheartedly agree with a prompt? Or is it always better to write a paragraph giving the opposing viewpoint?

[alexa94]

It's always best to include a rebuttal paragraph to show deeper insight into the text, rather than just superficially agreeing 100% with the question given. VCAA recognise this and hence most questions will offer you a chance to disagree with the question. Obviously in some cases, however, the question may be asking something that cannot be disagreed with. That is fine too, in that case, just make sure each of your three body paragraphs tackles a different idea from the text showing why what the question is asking is true.

[Destiny]

No. Don't include a rebuttal paragraph, argue consistently the entire way through or you'll lose marks. Yes, Yes, No does not indicate complexity, it indicates that you don't know what you are talking about. It's an argument, not you changing your mind constantly. I had the chief examiner speak at my school.

[charmanderp]

No. Don't include a rebuttal paragraph, argue consistently the entire way through or you'll lose marks. Yes, Yes, No does not indicate complexity, it indicates that you don't know what you are talking about. It's an argument, not you changing your mind constantly. I had the chief examiner speak at my school.

It's the didactic method - thesis, antithesis, synthesis It's been done so many times before I think examiners are a bit bored with it.

You don't have to argue both sides but I think it's good to point out alternative arguments. Adds to the complexity of your essay and I think it can bolster certain argument too.

[Abbe Crixus]

No. Don't include a rebuttal paragraph, argue consistently the entire way through or you'll lose marks. Yes, Yes, No does not indicate complexity, it indicates that you don't know what you are talking about. It's an argument, not you changing your mind constantly. I had the chief examiner speak at my school.

Friend, i think that's incredibly naive. Always include at least one rebuttal paragraph, it adds to the complexity of your argument and allows you a deeper analysis. My teacher is a VCE examiner (whatever they are called) and will be marking exams this year, this is his advice. You're not changing your mind constantly, you're just adding in one paragraph at the end, or you could make it half a paragraph.

[Destiny]

No. Don't include a rebuttal paragraph, argue consistently the entire way through or you'll lose marks. Yes, Yes, No does not indicate complexity, it indicates that you don't know what you are talking about. It's an argument, not you changing your mind constantly. I had the chief examiner speak at my school.

Friend, i think that's incredibly naive. Always include at least one rebuttal paragraph, it adds to the complexity of your argument and allows you a deeper analysis. My teacher is a VCE examiner (whatever they are called) and will be marking exams this year, this is his advice. You're not changing your mind constantly, you're just adding in one paragraph at the end, or you could make it half a paragraph.

My teacher is a VCE examiner and it's better to deal with the complexities in each paragraph instead of lumping it in together with 'oh look, I'm disagreeing with this topic!!'

[joseph95]

Why are you all arguing about this?
Do whatever you feel is best when you get the question.

If given an absolute question, such as "Joe is the hero of the book JoJo. Discuss," it could be very relevant to talk about how the character is a hero, and how he isn't. Agreeing and disagreeing with the question. Perfectly fine to do, and definitely does add depth. As long as you point out in the intro that you will be exploring different angles to the question.

If you think the question is 100% true, and you feel you can argue it for a whole essay and can score well, then do it. It's all subjective.

Relax Destiny. Do whatever you want tomorrow.

[alexa94]

No. Don't include a rebuttal paragraph, argue consistently the entire way through or you'll lose marks. Yes, Yes, No does not indicate complexity, it indicates that you don't know what you are talking about. It's an argument, not you changing your mind constantly. I had the chief examiner speak at my school.

Not true. That's why I start off with a rebuttal paragraph, e.g. Ostensibly, it appears this way... then the second paragraph will be something like 'however, deeper insight into the text...'

Anyway, it's pointless arguing this with the exam so close. Everyone just do what you've been doing up until now, it's not in anyone's interests to try something new in the exam.

[Abbe Crixus]

No. Don't include a rebuttal paragraph, argue consistently the entire way through or you'll lose marks. Yes, Yes, No does not indicate complexity, it indicates that you don't know what you are talking about. It's an argument, not you changing your mind constantly. I had the chief examiner speak at my school.

Not true. That's why I start off with a rebuttal paragraph, e.g. Ostensibly, it appears this way... then the second paragraph will be something like 'however, deeper insight into the text...'

Anyway, it's pointless arguing this with the exam so close. Everyone just do what you've been doing up until now, it's not in anyone's interests to try something new in the exam.

I think we should show some evaluation throughout our essay, even it is only brief. My teacher chided our English class because we were attacking Father Barry in 'On the Waterfront'. We went full out and argued he was manipulative and just as corrupt as Friendly. We made an argument and some of us received fairly low marks even though we were able to back up our argument. I think it is important to say something a long these lines throughout our essay ... "Whilst Friendly's corruption is so pervasive it demands the longshoremen descend to his amorality, Father Barry nonetheless is a manipulative character" (that could have been a little more articulate). Then you could proceed onto your main arguments supporting only one side, if yuo want.

[Charmz]

You're not exactly disagreeing. You're showing you understand to opposing view and you acknowledge that. You talk about why this may not be the case in an objective tone.
e.g However, it could be seen that..... although .......

[Destiny]

No. Don't include a rebuttal paragraph, argue consistently the entire way through or you'll lose marks. Yes, Yes, No does not indicate complexity, it indicates that you don't know what you are talking about. It's an argument, not you changing your mind constantly. I had the chief examiner speak at my school.

Not true. That's why I start off with a rebuttal paragraph, e.g. Ostensibly, it appears this way... then the second paragraph will be something like 'however, deeper insight into the text...'

Anyway, it's pointless arguing this with the exam so close. Everyone just do what you've been doing up until now, it's not in anyone's interests to try something new in the exam.

I think we should show some evaluation throughout our essay, even it is only brief. My teacher chided our English class because we were attacking Father Barry in 'On the Waterfront'. We went full out and argued he was manipulative and just as corrupt as Friendly. We made an argument and some of us received fairly low marks even though we were able to back up our argument. I think it is important to say something a long these lines throughout our essay ... "Whilst Friendly's corruption is so pervasive it demands the longshoremen descend to his amorality, Father Barry nonetheless is a manipulative character" (that could have been a little more articulate). Then you could proceed onto your main arguments supporting only one side, if yuo want.

You'll be able to argue this in the exam and get good marks because you're teacher sounds biased. As long as you back your points up, you'll be fine and the examiners hate a regurgitation of study notes.

[Abbe Crixus]

I still believe we should acknowledge counter arguments, even if only in a brief sentence. I always find i write rebuttal paragraphs, usually they compose half of my essay as the topics, in my experience, always demand evaluation.