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Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« on: November 03, 2012, 05:36:09 pm »
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Hi Guys,
I was just wondering that on the study design it says that we must know about the impact of a successful referendum however there is no real reference to a unsuccessful referendum, does this mean that we dont have to know about a unsuccessful referendum, or does the successful referendum indirectly imply that we should know about a unsuccessful referendum as well? Thank you.

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 07:00:50 pm »
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Know a successful referendum, don't worry about knowing a un successful referendum because the question is most likely going to ask about the impact it had on the division of powers of a successful referendum 

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 09:28:07 pm »
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You definitely need to know at least one referendum case where the referral of law-making powers between state and commonwealth occurred.

In regards to unsuccessful referendums, VCAA will most likely ask us why the majority of referendums are not passed in Australia. Along with that, providing an example of an unsuccessful referendum can't hurt.

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 03:50:19 pm »
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You definitely need to know at least one referendum case where the referral of law-making powers between state and commonwealth occurred.

In regards to unsuccessful referendums, VCAA will most likely ask us why the majority of referendums are not passed in Australia. Along with that, providing an example of an unsuccessful referendum can't hurt.
Jezza that's wrong information. A referral of powers is a totally different way of altering the division of powers. It may ask you a question on how the division of powers are altered by a referendum. You may also get a question where they ask you to discuss the referral of powers, which is when a state refers its power in an area of law to the Commonwealth via an act of parliament under s51 (xxxvii) of the Constitution.

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 03:56:23 pm »
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You definitely need to know at least one referendum case where the referral of law-making powers between state and commonwealth occurred.

In regards to unsuccessful referendums, VCAA will most likely ask us why the majority of referendums are not passed in Australia. Along with that, providing an example of an unsuccessful referendum can't hurt.
Jezza that's wrong information. A referral of powers is a totally different way of altering the division of powers. It may ask you a question on how the division of powers are altered by a referendum. You may also get a question where they ask you to discuss the referral of powers, which is when a state refers its power in an area of law to the Commonwealth via an act of parliament under s51 (xxxvii) of the Constitution.
You're correct, I did mean division of powers, but wrote referral of powers by mistake.

You're right in saying they will most likely ask you about the division of powers and they altered through a referendum proposal that passed and a High Court case such as the Franklin Dam case..

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 04:24:54 pm »
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Indeed, I assumed that was the case. But yes, be expected to get a question on a successful referendum that altered the division of powers for sure and be prepared for a question on the referral of powers and make sure you have an example for that too. The best one is when the Victorian parliament referred their power to the Commonwealth in 1986 relating to ex-nuptial children.

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 04:58:32 pm »
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Indeed, I assumed that was the case. But yes, be expected to get a question on a successful referendum that altered the division of powers for sure and be prepared for a question on the referral of powers and make sure you have an example for that too. The best one is when the Victorian parliament referred their power to the Commonwealth in 1986 relating to ex-nuptial children.
That's a good one, but would it be accepted despite it occurring 26 years ago. One I'm thinking of is terrorism laws.

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2012, 05:00:15 pm »
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What are the chances of a question where you have to compare Australia and another country on how the constitution protects rights? It was recently in the 2010 exam..

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 05:25:27 pm »
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What are the chances of a question where you have to compare Australia and another country on how the constitution protects rights? It was recently in the 2010 exam..
It's likely that it'll feature. If it doesn't, I'll be quite shocked by the omission by VCAA.

In a lot of the company papers I've completed, I've noticed that a lot of the 8-10 mark questions are returning for the comparison of Australia and another country in regards to the protection of rights. My teacher has predicted a big question will occur on this, after the other questions similar to this have been only 4-6 mark questions in the last few years.

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 05:32:30 pm »
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What are the chances of a question where you have to compare Australia and another country on how the constitution protects rights? It was recently in the 2010 exam..
It's likely that it'll feature. If it doesn't, I'll be quite shocked by the omission by VCAA.

In a lot of the company papers I've completed, I've noticed that a lot of the 8-10 mark questions are returning for the comparison of Australia and another country in regards to the protection of rights. My teacher has predicted a big question will occur on this, after the other questions similar to this have been only 4-6 mark questions in the last few years.

What country do you do? Mine is the United States of America...
i'm having trouble identifying how they protect their rights apart from the fact that they have a bill of rights...

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 05:34:23 pm »
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What are the chances of a question where you have to compare Australia and another country on how the constitution protects rights? It was recently in the 2010 exam..
It's likely that it'll feature. If it doesn't, I'll be quite shocked by the omission by VCAA.

In a lot of the company papers I've completed, I've noticed that a lot of the 8-10 mark questions are returning for the comparison of Australia and another country in regards to the protection of rights. My teacher has predicted a big question will occur on this, after the other questions similar to this have been only 4-6 mark questions in the last few years.

What country do you do? Mine is the United States of America...
i'm having trouble identifying how they protect their rights apart from the fact that they have a bill of rights...
I'm doing Canada. Apart from the bill of rights, I don't know too much about America and the way it protects their rights. The only other thing I know is that it has the Universal Declaration of Human Rights entrenched in its constitution, unlike Australia.

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 05:35:33 pm »
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thanks heaps ! and good luck :)

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Re: Do we have to know about a unsuccessful referendum?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 05:58:03 pm »
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Indeed, I assumed that was the case. But yes, be expected to get a question on a successful referendum that altered the division of powers for sure and be prepared for a question on the referral of powers and make sure you have an example for that too. The best one is when the Victorian parliament referred their power to the Commonwealth in 1986 relating to ex-nuptial children.
That's a good one, but would it be accepted despite it occurring 26 years ago. One I'm thinking of is terrorism laws.
They won't ask for a recent example of it since it's an infrequent occurrence. Just like they don't ask for recent referendums and recent cases of High Court interpretation. I pretty much know the way this subject functions inside and out :P just have to make sure I don't miss out little things like I sometimes did in the practice exams.