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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2012, 08:29:53 pm »
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I don't have anything useful to say but I really have to confess how inspired I was when I found out that you were transferring Paul (:
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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2012, 09:55:27 pm »
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I'm not at all familiar with the stereotypical Asian parenting.
I am sure, however, that parents are eventually able to understand you as long as you have your life planned out.
It'll start off as disappointment but they'll just learn to live with it.
It's your life do what YOU want or you will live regretful.
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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2012, 09:35:50 pm »
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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2012, 09:48:20 pm »
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Have you decided what to do tomorrow?!

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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2012, 10:00:00 pm »
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On the flip side, do u deserve it if sth bad happened to you because you DIDNT listen to parents and co?
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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2012, 11:55:13 pm »
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I guess the key point here is that every profession isn't as perfect as it seems, so ultimately you really do need to cultivate some sort of personal interest in a particular field. Every job/field of study will suck at some stage and some more than others.

I find it quite unfortunate that high-achieving students are pressured into these situations. I mean, since when does bragging rights (and even then these people fail to understand the concept of opportunity cost) triumph over general well-being?
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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2012, 12:04:24 am »
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There seems to be an UNHEALTHY obsession with medicine :)

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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2012, 12:09:39 am »
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I know its happening tomorrow and it's way too late to say anything to change your mind either way but i still thought i'd jump in.

Fact is, you only live once. You only get one shot at this, there is no going back in time. To borrow from the gaming world, there are no save points to go back to and there are no respawns. Once your life is over, it's game over man. It doesn't even matter if you believe in an afterlife or not because all the versions i've heard of are substantially different from this life.

There is a chance to do x or y later in a limited sense but you only have 80 years at it. The one life you get is too short and far too precious to get anything but the best out of it just to make your parents more happy or to be slightly more wealthy.

I can't emphasise enough how much something like this needs to sink in for a person making a decision of your caliber, you only live once.

Sure it might make your parents more happy but at what cost? They'll be able to live and adapt if you don't do medicine but if it is such a big trial for you and you are always wondering "what if", i say that sacrifice is far too large. Nothing is forever either, your parents will eventually no longer be around but you still could of wasted so much of your own life on a goal that wasn't yours.

One idea in philosophy is this thing called eternal recurrance or eternal return. The idea is you are forced to life this same life over and over and over again. The idea is, if you lived your life wrong, the torment will be far worse than even hell. You will constantly have the same regrets over and over, the same mistakes. If you wanted to be an artist but became a dentist instead, you will have to experience that let down and disappointing infinitely.

Few quotes ripped straight out of wikipedia (because i am lazy):

"What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more' ... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine"

"My formula for human greatness is amor fati: that one wants to have nothing different, not forward, not backward, not in all eternity. Not merely to bear the necessary, still less to conceal it—all idealism is mendaciousness before the necessary—but to love it"

Every chance to talk to a girl when you didn't, every time you could of worked harder or worked less and enjoyed more of life and didn't, every mistake, every regret, to be lived over and over an infinite amount of times. Sure sounds horrifying to me. The idea is you should life your life as if you had to experience it an infinite amount of times over, live your life as if you would change nothing if you could (which is the situation in the quote where he thanks the demon).

By deferring you're essentially delaying the decision and the associated anxiety, it's also a good choice but its essentially suspending judgment, sooner or later you'll have to choose one of the other two ways. By all means defer if you think it is best though but i am not sure if you will have a much better idea after a year off (of course you could just use a year off for other reasons to relax after all that hard work, volunteer, work, etc).

Sometimes though, theres the right choice to make and then theres the easy choice to make.

Massive kudos to you though for having the balls to do something many want to do but few actually do.

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Edit: I think as appianway pointed out and rightly so, is that you might be idealising education in the same way a lot of kids idealise med. I know its a tough thing to hear when its your passion and all but some of her suggestions are real good ones to take up too.
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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2012, 01:03:17 am »
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I don't have much experience on this matter nor I can offer great advises. But a person once told me: "It's always more important to choose something even though it may be 'wrong', rather than let others decide for you."
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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2012, 10:30:53 am »
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I'm really sorry to hear about your situation Paul. I can't even begin to comprehend the stress it must be causing you.

In terms of advice, (which is sort of hard for anyone on the forum to give seeing we don't know you or your family), I'd defer medicine, explain to your parents that you'll still have a place in medicine. As then just take a year off, do some soul searching, maybe some work experience in medicine/science/education or other areas of interest to see and get a real feeling for what you truly want.

This is going to sound really selfish, but at the end of the day, you have to do what will make YOU happy, because you're going to be the one who goes to lectures, does the assignments,the exams and turn up to work once you graduate. My dad got a year 12 score good enough to do anything he wanted, his parents wanted him to do medicine or law (I assume because of the prestige), but he chose computer science and is absolutely fantastic at what he does and loves it too.

I also think the writing a letter idea suggested by others and moving to a friends place for a bit is a good idea too.

Good luck  :D

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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2012, 09:11:38 pm »
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i know you dont understand hindi,
but man.. this video from 3 idiots (indian film): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_hDOcPuiV8
sums up ur case i reckon,

its crucial to do as you said, win over your parents, make em realise its your life and happiness, not society's.

DUDE, I was going to suggest he watches the film with subtitles, it truly encapsulates society's occupational hierarchy system where parents practically want to showcase their sons and daughters. Paul, I really recommend you watch this, it is a truly inspiring film and it relates to you. Here's the link to the entire film if you are interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b54581_jG5E

On a more related note, I would suggest that you do the course you desire. They aren't the one's doing medicine, and they aren't going to be experiencing the miserable and monotonous nature of doing something that one have no interest in. You are old enough to make your own decision. If you do listen to them and continue medicine, not only are you going to regret your decision in an attempt to make you parents happy, you are only encouraging them to be further involved in the whole notion of bringing integrity to the family. I am not 100% sure entirely of the situation, but you should step up and not shy away from the decisions you are capable of making! :P


All the best!

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Re: Dropping out of Medicine? I need advice!
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2012, 09:14:36 pm »
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Yep, I've heard about 3 Idiots and I know the story, albeit I haven't watched it, but I shall soon enough.

I'll reply to all your replies later today, I just have to do something first, do know that I've read it though and appreciate all your kind words and advice very much :)