chancellor's scholar program

[jaydee]

The chancellor's scholar program requires an atar of 99.90. Since it's a different vtac code the clearly in is obviously different (eg biomed). Would having SEAS lower that 99.90 cut off for chancellor's scholar like it does with the other undergrad courses or would it still remain at 99.90?

[Hancock]

I'm fairly confident that SEAS doesn't do anything for the cut-off of Chancellor's Scholars, but I'm happy to be proven wrong. I've always thought that it was 99.90+ or nothing (unless there is little demand where they will consider 99.85s as well).

[pi]

SEAS does not apply.

[jaydee]

ahhh that's a shame that it doesn't. worth a try anyway haha

[simpak]

If SEAS applied to this I wouldn't want to live in this world any more.

[Planck's constant]

By the same token, if a student was hospitalised for 2 months during the year with a serious illness and still managed say, a 99.80, would that not be as meritorious as a 99.90 for a student who did not have this disruption ?

Still, I get your point

[simpak]

If a student were hospitalised for two months and was attempting to get a score above 99 they might consider delaying their VCE a year to be honest.

This thing goes to like, so few people.  They should keep it that way.

[New2VCE]

Not sure if this helps -

http://futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/admissions/pathways/access-melbourne/guaranteed-entry-access-melbourne-2012

You achieve the following ATAR or notional ATAR:
78 or above — guarantees a place in Arts, Environments or Science
88 or above — guarantees a place in Commerce
95 or above — guarantees a place in Biomedicine

In addition you get a scholarship of $13,500 over the duration of your under grad studies.

[Russ]

Unfortunately doesn't apply to the scholars program

[FlorianK]

By the same token, if a student was hospitalised for 2 months during the year with a serious illness and still managed say, a 99.80, would that not be as meritorious as a 99.90 for a student who did not have this disruption ?

So why should that student be able to take the spot of the person, who actually achieved 99.90+?

[simpak]

Agree, SEAS is fine for like, general access but not for something with so many limited places and a clear description of what is required.  ATAR for entry is demand based, this is completely merit based.

[Planck's constant]

So why should that student be able to take the spot of the person, who actually achieved 99.90+?

I said nothing about taking someone's place.
I said that there is a case for SEAS to apply across the board, including National Scholarships.
I have different ideas about 'merit', and they usually get me into trouble, but I don't care.

Without SEAS, UoM admissions would be completely dominated by APS, AGS, GSV and Selective schools.
Furthermore, who is to say that a 99 from [insert name of low SES and underrepresented government school] is not as meritorious as a 99.90 from an elite private school. Some would say it is more deserving of a National Scholasrship.

[simpak]

You don't have to go to an elite private school to get a 99.90.
The fact that it's 0.9 less tells me it's not as meritorious.

[Planck's constant]

You don't have to go to an elite private school to get a 99.90.

I said, without SEAS, UoM admissions would be dominated by APS, AGS, GSV and Selective Schools.
These schools are resourced to be ATAR factories.
Welcome to my planet, mavisgibbons

The students who have been given National Scholarship offers this year are: 


Jonathan Bebbington (Melbourne Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Sebastian Broome (Melbourne Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Commerce)
Brandon Chan (Camberwell Grammar School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Matthew Chan (Camberwell Grammar School, 99.95, Bachelor of Science)
Lynna Chen (Presbyterian Ladies’ College, 99.96, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Rufi Chen (Macrobertson Girls High School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
William Chen (Penleigh & Essendon Grammar School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Wayne Cheung (Camberwell Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Science)
James Chu (Melbourne High School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Weiyu Fang (Xavier College, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Alexander Gregory-Allen (Camberwell Grammar School, 99.95, Bachelor of Arts)
Samuel Grigg (Xavier College, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Francis Ha (Scotch College, 99.90, Bachelor of Commerce)
Julian He (Camberwell Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Thushan Hettige (Scotch College, 99.95, Bachelor of Science)
William Hoang (Melbourne Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
James Hogan (Camberwell Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Science)
Thomas Hu (Melbourne High School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Magdalenna Krstevska (Melbourne Girls Grammar, 99.90, Bachelor of Music)
Emma Kong (Presbyterian Ladies’ College, 99.95, Bachelor of Science)
Michael Li (Scotch College, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Stephanie Lightfoot (Sacre Coeur, 99.90, Bachelor of Arts)
Claire Lim (Vermont Secondary College, 99.90, Bachelor of Commerce
Rose Lin (Macrobertson Girls High School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Nathaniel Lizak (Bialik College, 99.90 Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Alicia Lu (Camberwell Anglican Girls Grammar School, 99.90 Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Vivian Ly (Penleigh & Essendon Grammar School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
James Majer (Camberwell Grammar School, 99.90 Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Joseph Moore (Hailebury College, 99.95, Bachelor of Arts)
James Ooi (Trinity Grammar School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Beatrice Paull (Lowther Hall Anglican Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Arts)
Swetha Prabhakaran (Macrobertson Girls High School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Istafa Raza (Melbourne High School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Samad Raza (Melbourne High school, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Julie Sheng (Melbourne Girls Grammar, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Krita Sridharan (Macrobertson Girls High School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Gerard Tao (Camberwell Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Sukarnan Thevalingam (Hailebury College, 99.90, Bachelor of Oral Health)
Clare Thomas (Presbyterian Ladies’ College, 99.90 Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Cameron Venus (Melbourne Grammar School, 99.95, Bachelor of Arts)
Anita Voon (Presbyterian Ladies’ College, 99.90, Bachelor of Commerce)
Joanna Wang (Macrobertson Girls High School, 99.95, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
John Wong (Melbourne High School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)
Michael Woodburn (Xavier College, 99.95, Bachelor of Science)
James Worsnop (Xavier College, 99.95, Bachelor of Science)
Ollie Xue (Ivanhoe Grammar School, 99.90, Bachelor of Biomedicine)

[Planck's constant]

Has anyone tried to get a 99.90 in a low SES school, or a remote regional school, where you can't do the LOTE of your choice, you can't do Latin, you can't do Specialist Maths, you don't have access to the best teachers (who prefer to work in the Independent sector), you don't have access to tutors, peer competition etc etc?