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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1845 on: November 11, 2013, 06:10:55 pm »
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What's the point/different between using inert and non-inert electrodes? Is it just that inert ones don't react in whatever context you need them for?
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« Reply #1846 on: November 11, 2013, 06:21:05 pm »
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What's the point/different between using inert and non-inert electrodes? Is it just that inert ones don't react in whatever context you need them for?
You can't always make an electrode out of the thing you want to react, e.g. solid water electrode? (Well, maybe you could, but not very practical.) Also consider cost - a solid silver electrode is probably a bit expensive.
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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1847 on: November 11, 2013, 06:30:50 pm »
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When do we use the equilibrium arrows in reactions?

Does electrolysis/galvanic cell reactions require them?

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« Reply #1848 on: November 11, 2013, 06:47:56 pm »
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Anyone able to provide me with a brief brief summary of the differences between HPLC and GLC and which one is better for which compounds?  :-\

EDIT: I have another question, just so that I know that I've got my head wrapped around this equilibrium stuff,
so only temperature can change the value of K but say for like an increase in pressure, the reaction is pushed to the left or right (depending on particles) but the K has not changed, but we may get more reactant or product? I dont even know if I'm making sense but does it?
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« Reply #1849 on: November 11, 2013, 07:12:59 pm »
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Is it necessary to use reversible arrows when writing equations from the Electrochemical series? I never use them, so would I lose marks?

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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1850 on: November 11, 2013, 07:14:34 pm »
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When do we use the equilibrium arrows in reactions?

Does electrolysis/galvanic cell reactions require them?

I wouldn't put them in for electrolysis because equilibrium is not a concern; we're forcing the reaction in a particular direction.
Also, for galvanic cells, it can be shown that the standard electrode potential is directly proportional to the natural log of the equilibrium constant. For reactions involving one electron transfer per mole reaction, the constant of proportionality is around 1/39, which means the equilibrium constant is pretty large. You can generally leave the double way arrows out there.

You DO use them in acid-base reactions (unless one of the acids is strong), in anything where there is a quoted equilibrium constant of less than around 10^4...and where they tell you to put them in :P

Anyone able to provide me with a brief brief summary of the differences between HPLC and GLC and which one is better for which compounds?  :-\

EDIT: I have another question, just so that I know that I've got my head wrapped around this equilibrium stuff,
so only temperature can change the value of K but say for like an increase in pressure, the reaction is pushed to the left or right (depending on particles) but the K has not changed, but we may get more reactant or product? I dont even know if I'm making sense but does it?

HPLC=>more expensive due to pressures, but can be used for large organic substances
GC is more accurate, but it requires moderately high temperatures, which can cause some organic compounds to decompose

Equilibrium constants are ONLY ever changed by temperature. What you're describing is a change in the reaction quotient; by changing the pressure, you may change the denominator and the numerator of the reaction quotient (concentration fraction) to varying extents.
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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1851 on: November 11, 2013, 07:23:25 pm »
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What is the best way to approach the exam? Is leaving the MCQ until the end a good option?
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« Reply #1852 on: November 11, 2013, 08:08:32 pm »
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Thanks for the other answer,
Another question :/
Is the negative terminal of the power supply always attached to the negative electrode and positive terminal of the power supply always attached to the positive terminal or is this situation only the case in electrolytic cells?

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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1853 on: November 11, 2013, 08:12:34 pm »
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Thanks for the other answer,
Another question :/
Is the negative terminal of the power supply always attached to the negative electrode and positive terminal of the power supply always attached to the positive terminal or is this situation only the case in electrolytic cells?

only in electrolytic cells

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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1854 on: November 11, 2013, 08:21:58 pm »
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Which peak is broader, the OH alcohol or OH acid?
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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1855 on: November 11, 2013, 08:31:36 pm »
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Which peak is broader, the OH alcohol or OH acid?
acid by far, usually it's so fat it covers the C-H stretch! Wheras with the hydroxyl in alkanols, it's skinnier so you see this broad one for O-H then the skinny C-H one at about the same wavenumber
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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1856 on: November 11, 2013, 08:43:28 pm »
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wow this chem thread moves fast haha

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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1857 on: November 11, 2013, 08:44:00 pm »
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What is the best way to explain why a certain spontaneous reaction occurs?
1) the strongest oxidant reacts with the strongest reductant
2)...

Do we mention the E0 values of the half equations?

Because the electrolysis of molten KCl involves the strongest oxidant with the strongest reductant but its still a forced reaction.
I don't know how to explain why molten KCl to K and Cl2 isn't spontaneous.

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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1858 on: November 11, 2013, 08:49:35 pm »
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Re: Chemistry 3/4 2013 Thread
« Reply #1859 on: November 11, 2013, 08:50:49 pm »
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What is the best way to explain why a certain spontaneous reaction occurs?
1) the strongest oxidant reacts with the strongest reductant
2)...

Do we mention the E0 values of the half equations?

Because the electrolysis of molten KCl involves the strongest oxidant with the strongest reductant but its still a forced reaction.
I don't know how to explain why molten KCl to K and Cl2 isn't spontaneous.

Hm? Cl- ions are a very weak reductant, and K+ ions are a very weak oxidant, that's why it's not spontaneous.