Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

April 20, 2026, 06:19:00 pm

Author Topic: Derived Score  (Read 2839 times)  Share 

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Michelle94

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 321
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Geelong Grammar School
  • School Grad Year: 2012
Derived Score
« on: December 12, 2012, 09:26:26 am »
0
Hi.
i got a derived score for a few of my exams this year.
i still sat the exams! but they are going to calculate my derived score and real exam score and which ever leads to a higher study score is the score i will receive.
was just wondering how do they calculate it? i think its gat/sacs/score the teacher predicted me to get. is that correct?
will i even know if they used my derived or my real exam grade?
is it true it is almost impossible to get a 40+ for derived,

Reckoner

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 489
  • Respect: +60
  • School Grad Year: 2012
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2012, 01:11:35 pm »
0
It's definitely possible to get 40+. Last year someone at my school got a derived 47.

HighLatency

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 390
  • Respect: +38
  • School Grad Year: 2012
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2012, 01:23:45 pm »
+1
It's definitely possible to get 40+. Last year someone at my school got a derived 47.

For some reason that sounds really dodgy

daniel034

  • Victorian
  • Forum Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 91
  • Respect: 0
  • School Grad Year: 2012
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2012, 02:19:58 pm »
0
A girl at my school got 47 derived for psych without sitting the end of year exam
BComm @ UniMelb

Michelle94

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 321
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Geelong Grammar School
  • School Grad Year: 2012
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 04:45:54 pm »
0
a 47 derived!! wow but she must of done really well for her mid year exam

oh okay, well one of the subjects is business and all year my sacs have been A+ i am hoping for a 40+
has anyone got a derived score?

Michelle94

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 321
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Geelong Grammar School
  • School Grad Year: 2012
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 04:47:07 pm »
0
the score my teacher sent in as my predicted exam score was an A+ as that is what i got in my practice exam

paulsterio

  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 4803
  • I <3 2SHAN
  • Respect: +430
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 05:01:33 pm »
-1
Derived Examination Scores are so dodgy. What's to stop me from saying, oh hey, I got 100% on the Unit 3 Exam and I've aced all my SACs, let's just pull a sickie and get a guaranteed 47+?

In all honesty, I still think VCAA should allow those who were unable to sit the exam the first time around to sit an alternative exam at a later date and then standardise scores to allow for different difficulties...etc.

Lasercookie

  • Honorary Moderator
  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 3167
  • Respect: +326
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2012, 05:11:10 pm »
+2
Derived Examination Scores are so dodgy. What's to stop me from saying, oh hey, I got 100% on the Unit 3 Exam and I've aced all my SACs, let's just pull a sickie and get a guaranteed 47+?

In all honesty, I still think VCAA should allow those who were unable to sit the exam the first time around to sit an alternative exam at a later date and then standardise scores to allow for different difficulties...etc.
I don't see how they're dodgy.

What if you had an accident at exam time, can't sit the exam nor would you be able to sit it a couple of months later due to still being out of action? And then all the other possibilities for other people where things could go wrong? How would VCAA be able to organise that? It'd be a nightmare on their part. Not to mention that it'd delay calculating of ATARs etc.

What would stop you from pulling a sickie? I dunno, maybe the fact that derived scores aren't **that** easy to get approved.

Michelle94

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 321
  • Respect: 0
  • School: Geelong Grammar School
  • School Grad Year: 2012
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2012, 05:15:58 pm »
0
wah i just want to know if i can get a 40 with a derived score

paulsterio

  • ATAR Notes Legend
  • *******
  • Posts: 4803
  • I <3 2SHAN
  • Respect: +430
Re: Derived Score
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2012, 05:18:50 pm »
0
I don't see how they're dodgy.

What if you had an accident at exam time, can't sit the exam nor would you be able to sit it a couple of months later due to still being out of action? And then all the other possibilities for other people where things could go wrong? How would VCAA be able to organise that? It'd be a nightmare on their part. Not to mention that it'd delay calculating of ATARs etc.

What would stop you from pulling a sickie? I dunno, maybe the fact that derived scores aren't **that** easy to get approved.

Well I think it has to be within reason, exams can't be simulated because the truth is anything can happen in an exam room. They test more than your mere knowledge of the subject, they test things such as how well you hold up under pressure, how accurate and meticulous you are as well as how hard you've been working just before the exam.

Would it be fair if I didn't work that hard throughout the year, but crammed hard for Exams, was doing well on practice exams and I had to get a DES, which wouldn't reflect the hard work I put in at the end? You know what I'm trying to get at here though aren't you?

I'm not saying that people will take advantage of the system and pull sickies, I'm just unsure of how well a DES correlates with an actual score. Maybe VCAA should do a study into this - give everyone (i.e. people sitting an exam) a fake DES from the data they have as they would with everyone else and see how they compare to the real exam results.

wah i just want to know if i can get a 40 with a derived score

That's like asking will you get a 40 with a non-derived score, we don't know, it depends on how it all comes together, your SAC marks and your Exam mark - from the info. you have provided, it is possible for you to get 40+. You should be aiming all A+'s for a 40+ SS.