Biomedical Science (plus doubledegree?)

[Bhootnike]

Hey
I have been wondering if doing a biomed/engineering double degree at monash would be a smart idea? Reason for the double degree is basically a backup option if  I can't get into graduate entry medicine.

My other option was science at melbourne uni.
do med prereqs(wtf are they even??) and some major in some engineering, ? (I don't have any concrete info on whether this is easily achieved cause of timetable clashes tho?)

looking forward to some responses!

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[pi]

Hey
I have been wondering if doing a biomed/engineering double degree at monash would be a smart idea? Reason for the double degree is basically a backup option if  I can't get into graduate entry medicine.

This was my back-up plan for med! Seemed like a good idea to me! I have a friend who is doing the combo (although he doesn't want to do med at all - never has) and is getting exceptional grades (he topped a unit or two); he's on AN so hopefully he posts here haha

UoM Science is another good option. If I was to list my VTAC prefs again (assuming I had no eng scholarship), I would list this as second over Biomed/Eng. Simply because it seems lot less hectic and I think (please correct me) you can do a Master of Eng if you don't make MD/etc.

As for MD prereqs, they are 3 subjects. The rest of the grad med programs (Deakin, Monash Gipps, etc.) don't have any such prereq subjects All the prereqs can be done in UoM Sci as well as in Monash Biomed (or a double degree with it).

Good luck!

[Hancock]

Firstly, congrats on your ATAR and finishing school. Besides that, if you are looking towards UoM for graduate entry, you need to take 3 2nd year subjects (1 in anatomy, 1 in biochemistry, 1 in physiology) in order to apply for the MD program at Melbourne. These require you to take Chemistry 1 and 2, and Biology 1 and 2 in first year.

If you could tell me about which sort of engineering you'll most likely to major in, I could give you some more specific advice, but until then it'll be a tad hard because there are too many variables in the course plan to do so. The BSc program at Melbourne is extremely good in my opinion, giving me the option to dabble in commerce without committing to an entire Bachelor degree which I did not want to do. Breadth is an acquired taste but you have the option to do it at every university, just at Melbourne, it's mandatory to take at least 4 classes outside your home faculty.

[Bhootnike]

Firstly, congrats on your ATAR and finishing school. Besides that, if you are looking towards UoM for graduate entry, you need to take 3 2nd year subjects (1 in anatomy, 1 in biochemistry, 1 in physiology) in order to apply for the MD program at Melbourne. These require you to take Chemistry 1 and 2, and Biology 1 and 2 in first year.

If you could tell me about which sort of engineering you'll most likely to major in, I could give you some more specific advice, but until then it'll be a tad hard because there are too many variables in the course plan to do so. The BSc program at Melbourne is extremely good in my opinion, giving me the option to dabble in commerce without committing to an entire Bachelor degree which I did not want to do. Breadth is an acquired taste but you have the option to do it at every university, just at Melbourne, it's mandatory to take at least 4 classes outside your home faculty.

Thanks mate

ah sweet, so only chem 1, 2 and biology 1,2 in first year, then 3 subjects in each of anatomy, biochem and physiology, and that meets the requirements?
Could you possibly link me the page where i can find the subjects for those 3 majors?

engineering wise, biomedical engineering or chemical engineering would be my top 2 choices, but yeah bioeng would be the preferred.

[Hancock]

Since you want to take Bioeng, you are going to need to take ESD1 and 2 since ESD1 is 'Intro to Chem Eng / Ethics of Eng / MATLAB stuff' and ESD2 is 'Intro to Statics, Dynamics, Computing and Digital Circuits' (Mech, Civil, Software, Electrical). You'll also have to take Calc 2  and Linear Algebra in first year which completes all your spots for 1st year. You have to knock breadth down till 2nd and 3rd year if you want to satisfy med pre-reqs.

So, in first year, you would do:

Calc 2     Bio 1      Chem 1     ESD1
Lin Alg     Bio 2     Chem 2     ESD2

From this platform, you can then go onto second year, majoring in Bioengineering, with enough spots to take Med Pre-reqs. You are basically following this plan: http://www.bsc.unimelb.edu.au/bioengineering-systems but moving Chemistry 1 and 2 into the breadth slots in first year.

Chem Eng / Med Pre-reqs is kinda a pain to organise, but I'll give it a shot later and get back to you.

[Bhootnike]

Since you want to take Bioeng, you are going to need to take ESD1 and 2 since ESD1 is 'Intro to Chem Eng / Ethics of Eng / MATLAB stuff' and ESD2 is 'Intro to Statics, Dynamics, Computing and Digital Circuits' (Mech, Civil, Software, Electrical). You'll also have to take Calc 2  and Linear Algebra in first year which completes all your spots for 1st year. You have to knock breadth down till 2nd and 3rd year if you want to satisfy med pre-reqs.

So, in first year, you would do:

Calc 2     Bio 1      Chem 1     ESD1
Lin Alg     Bio 2     Chem 2     ESD2

From this platform, you can then go onto second year, majoring in Bioengineering, with enough spots to take Med Pre-reqs. You are basically following this plan: http://www.bsc.unimelb.edu.au/bioengineering-systems but moving Chemistry 1 and 2 into the breadth slots in first year.

Chem Eng / Med Pre-reqs is kinda a pain to organise, but I'll give it a shot later and get back to you.

Oh sweet, just wondering, people have done this before right? like taken science, done bioeng major and tried for med? haha
and damn, wanted to do linguistics as a breadth haha, so the uni will let me not do breaths?

[Hancock]

The uni will let you take breadths, but you will only be able to take 4 because you want to go for Med as well. You'll be taking these 4 breadths in 2nd and 3rd year. Regarding whether people have done this before, about 1/2 the BioEng majors I've met are using this as a pre-med course. Note that engineering is a hard course and you'll still need to get ~6.5 GPA out of 7 (distinction / high distinction average) in order to get into Med at UoM. But Russ / Stonecold or anyone else that is more versed in the topic will be able to help you there.

[Quantum.Mechanic]

I was reading the pre-requisites and it states that you have to have completed a course...
But if we complete the Biomed/Engineering course, that is a 5 year course, Is it possible to sit the GAMSAT in the third year, and move into graduate medicine without completing the degree?
I was hoping to get into graduate medicine at Monash, Can someone please clarify this for me?
Thanks

[HERculina]

I was wondering if anyone had answers to the above question posted by Never.land I'm also interested in this course

[Russ]

No, you need to have finished a degree to get into a postgrad med program

[Pup]

@ Hancock, just wondering can you do Science subjects as part of breadth?

and for second year, how can you fit med pre-requisities in, if I was to major in civil systems?

Thanks

[Hancock]

Can't do Science subjects as breadth if you are a BSc or Biomed student. Note: I don't recommend anyone do Engineering with Med pre-reqs. You'll just get a watered down engineering discipline compared to a straight BE or BSc w/ engineering electives. (Bioengineering is an exception). You don't do Physics in first year in order to do Med pre-reqs and I think that's really bad.

First year:

ESD1  Bio1  Calc 2  Chem1
ESD2  Bio2  Lin Alg Chem 2

Second Year:
Eng Maths            Eng Mechanics      Anatomy     Biochem
Earth Processes    Eng Materials       Physiology   BREADTH

YOU CANNOT DO CIVIL / MED UNLESS YOU TAKE A CAP CLASS. You need 4 breadths to graduate and this course plan uses too many slots. You'll need to take one class at full-fee costs (~3000 if I'm not mistaken) to do Civil and Med prereqs.