Anyone doing Science at Melbourne Uni?

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Just wondering, how is it? Is it hard? Competitive?

I've actually got no idea what I want to do with my life, so this is probably a perfect course for me, I might cross off Biomedicine from my list as

1) I doubt I'll get over 99
2) Supposedly it's crazy hard and competitive (which makes it even harder)
3) I don't even know if I want to do anything with medicine


But yeah, could anyone give me a general idea of how Science is?

[Gloamglozer]

I can tell you mathematics and statistics is awesome.  Although I would be more biased to mathematics more than statistics.

Also, to the future biomed kids, the new course Maths for Biomed is crazily hard.  I've had a look at the material and the stuff they are doing right now is even harder than 3rd year stochastic modelling.  So unless they change the course after this semester, Maths for Biomed, which is compulsory for all biomedicine students, is insane.

[deleted]

I can tell you mathematics and statistics is awesome.  Although I would be more biased to mathematics more than statistics.

Also, to the future biomed kids, the new course Maths for Biomed is crazily hard.  I've had a look at the material and the stuff they are doing right now is even harder than 3rd year stochastic modelling.  So unless they change the course after this semester, Maths for Biomed, which is compulsory for all biomedicine students, is insane.

When you say harder,what do you mean?

Like comparing further maths to specialist, we can easily say specialist is harder by a lot.
But if we compare methods to spesh, there are a lot of people who actually find methods 'harder' than specialist because they enjoy specialist more. But the concepts in specialist are harder to grasp and understand.

So if we compared biomed and science, what do you mean?

[Russ]

You can't compare courses like that, they're comprised of individual subjects and it's up to you to choose the subjects. Two people can each have a BSc and have had completely different experiences of the course (one majors in electrical engineering, the other in geology). Science is broader than Biomedicine and if you're not sure what you want, it's probably a better choice for you.

[Belgarion]

I can tell you mathematics and statistics is awesome.  Although I would be more biased to mathematics more than statistics.

Also, to the future biomed kids, the new course Maths for Biomed is crazily hard.  I've had a look at the material and the stuff they are doing right now is even harder than 3rd year stochastic modelling.  So unless they change the course after this semester, Maths for Biomed, which is compulsory for all biomedicine students, is insane.

Im currently doing first year biomed. I can say the maths for biomed subject is hard but only because the lecturer was going really fast. The actual maths isnt that hard. Our group did a survey and he has re evaluated his teaching method and is now going a lot slower, has cut out quite a bit of the content and now goes over what he didnt explain properly.


Back to the original topic. You dont need a 99 to get into biomed, with SEAS you can get in with a 95+, half the people in the cohort did not get a 99. Its not crazily hard, its challenging but definitely manageable. To me,its very similar to year 12 in terms of difficulty. It is competitive as it does have the high achievers of the state, however with hard work you could pretty much out do most of them as they are pretty cocky and i know many who dont study much as they think they'll get by on wjhat they know (dont do this).

The only thing that should really influence you is if you want to do medicine. Biomedicine is a degree that people do if they want to follow that pathway however there are many other things that you could do. However, if you have no idea what you want to do, a science degree has so many more options in many areas. Do biomed if you want to go into the health science/medicine area. Do science if you have no idea what you want to do.

Hope this helped

[REBORN]

Maths for BBMED is going to get 'better' (loose term) after a survey was conducted in which 45% of students found it "too confusing" and a similar proportion found the pace "too fast".

EDIT: Beaten.

[Shenz0r]

Maths for BBMED is going to get 'better' (loose term) after a survey was conducted in which 45% of students found it "too confusing" and a similar proportion found the pace "too fast".

EDIT: Beaten.

Most of us forgot about the survey lolol, but the real proportion should definitely be higher

I can tell you mathematics and statistics is awesome.  Although I would be more biased to mathematics more than statistics.

Also, to the future biomed kids, the new course Maths for Biomed is crazily hard.  I've had a look at the material and the stuff they are doing right now is even harder than 3rd year stochastic modelling.  So unless they change the course after this semester, Maths for Biomed, which is compulsory for all biomedicine students, is insane.

My fondest memory of maths lectures so far is the lecturer saying "I'm puzzled that you're puzzled".

He explained concepts way too quickly and too briefly, I guess.

Although the lectures feel way too fast and complicated, I normally get concepts clarified during my tutes and consultation sessions. Once you get it, the maths isn't too hard I suppose, just more practise is needed. What we've covered so far has mostly focused on population genetics.

Just wondering, how is it? Is it hard? Competitive?

I've actually got no idea what I want to do with my life, so this is probably a perfect course for me, I might cross off Biomedicine from my list as

1) I doubt I'll get over 99
2) Supposedly it's crazy hard and competitive (which makes it even harder)

Well, I've only been in the course for a month, but this is what I've gathered so far:

-The content isn't too hard at first year level, but it goes at a faster pace than Science and it's quite easy to fall behind.
-The competition isn't cut-throat. People are more studious though and it kinda encourages you to work more. Rather than sabotaging other people, the cohort is there trying to help others and elevate them up (we have a page on Facebook where we just collaborate on work and compile notes).

[Stick]

You dont need a 99 to get into biomed, with SEAS you can get in with a 95+, half the people in the cohort did not get a 99.

You make it sound as if everyone can get SEAS, which isn't the case.

[Belgarion]

You make it sound as if everyone can get SEAS, which isn't the case.

most people get youth allowance which comes under disadvantaged financial background, therefore can apply for SEAS. Probably not if your a private schooler, but i came from a public school, so yeah.

[Biceps]

 BSc is so much more laid back than i thought. It is so easy and not competitive at all. However, if you ever plan on moving on to medicine or dentistry then the competition is going to be there.

[Dedicated]

I miss all my lectures and i'm doing fine . At the end independent learning gets you places. And bio medicine in my opinion is only good if you cbf picking the subjects needed for medicine. Science is as sufficient if not better due to increased flexibility.

[simpak]

Take Science if you don't know what you want to do.  I had offers to both and ended up choosing Science because I was unsure.  Now I know I want to do something Biomedicine related but I have never regretted my decision.  Science is awesome yo.

[Hancock]

-The content isn't too hard at first year level, but it goes at a faster pace than Science and it's quite easy to fall behind.

How do you know this?

[ferrsal]

The competition isn't cut-throat. People are more studious though and it kinda encourages you to work more. Rather than sabotaging other people, the cohort is there trying to help others and elevate them up (we have a page on Facebook where we just collaborate on work and compile notes).

I agree with this. The pressure encourages you to work harder, but at the same time people are friendly and helpful around you.

[Gloamglozer]

Hey everyone.  I've split a huge portion of this thread and made a new topic as it divulged from the original topic.  The new topic can be found here.  Thank you.