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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #150 on: February 27, 2008, 09:05:39 pm »
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #151 on: March 01, 2008, 11:08:11 am »
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thanks, nicely explained!

i have more.....
Find the general solutions to the following equations. Give exact answers:
a)
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #152 on: March 01, 2008, 11:33:29 am »
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Question A:





Dividing through by cos(x):





Now we remember all our solutions to tan(x) = 1:



These seem to be following a pattern, so we can say:



Question B:





Dividing through by



Which we can generalise with:



remember, both of these go in the negative direction as well :)
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #153 on: March 01, 2008, 12:22:47 pm »
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thanks dcc..

one question though, with (a) in the one you just answered and also the question mao answered, why is it ok to divide both sides by cos(x)?
What if cos(x) = 0, wouldn't that be undefined? Or does that just sort itself out when we end up with the list of solutions for x, which don't include pi, pi/2 etc?
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #154 on: March 01, 2008, 12:33:17 pm »
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ACTUALLY



For this relation to be true, neither of them can be zero, because if one is zero then the other must be zero, and we know that cannot equal zero at the same time as
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #155 on: March 01, 2008, 01:34:35 pm »
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indeed. sin[0] = 0 but cos[0] = 1

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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #156 on: March 02, 2008, 10:39:41 am »
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righhht. well that makes sense!

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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #157 on: March 13, 2008, 09:00:44 pm »
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Solve for x:


I thought the best way would be to factorise/solve by nfl - am I right?
If so, is there a more effective way of factorising this than trying P(1), P(2) etc until one = 0?
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #158 on: March 13, 2008, 09:05:13 pm »
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There might be, but they are special cases where you have to recognise it fits into some special form. I can't spot one, nor does it look like there could be one (the numbers aren't very yummy), so I'll just tell you that works well :)

It doesn't take that long if you use a shorter form of long division. I use synthetic division. You know that is a factor so you just write down:



Now, fill in the right bracket systematically, working from the highest power of down to the constant term, while also keeping in mind the extra term being produced. I'm not actually sure if you wanted an explanation of this, so I'm not going to explain further unless you ask me to!



Still can't see any nice way to factorise this, so use the guessing game for the last time, before breaking it into a quadratic. Hint:
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #159 on: March 13, 2008, 09:07:31 pm »
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what do you think the chances would be that i'd have to work something like this out in a non-calc question?

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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #160 on: March 13, 2008, 09:08:07 pm »
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low chance
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #161 on: March 13, 2008, 09:12:20 pm »
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I would say that it is possible to get a 3rd degree polynomial though
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #162 on: March 13, 2008, 09:14:08 pm »
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I would say that it is possible to get a 3rd degree polynomial though

I agree. There is a low chance of a quartic, because it tests the same technique twice (as you can see, you need to guess factors twice).

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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #163 on: March 13, 2008, 09:35:34 pm »
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And for the tech-free exams, they are looking at whether you know how to use the various techniques and formulae that you will learn throughout the year. I remember a chem teacher tell me something along the lines of "examiners only have 7 minutes to completely go through your exam paper." If that were true, they would not want to go about correcting a solution of a 4th degree polynomial.
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Re: BEC'S methods questions
« Reply #164 on: March 13, 2008, 09:39:41 pm »
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YES COBLIN BROUGHT UP SYNTHETIC DIVISION