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Not sure which subjects to do for VCE yet
« on: July 24, 2013, 11:15:09 pm »
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I need to choose my 6 fairly soon... So basically I've locked in a few:
Chemistry
French
Maths Methods

I'm considering English Language and Specialist Maths. I want to do Med in Uni and all I need is Chem but I was wondering which other subjects I should do?

Specifically, I'm leaning towards English Language but I'm not 100% sure yet, can someone please tell me what the pros/cons are for English Language and English?

And with Specialist Maths, I'll put it this way: maths is my forte. I was wondering if I want to do specialist maths are there any subjects I need to do in Year 11? Like General for example, should I do that?

And any other suggestions for other subjects?

Thanks :)

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Re: Not sure which subjects to do for VCE yet
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 11:22:52 pm »
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I need to choose my 6 fairly soon... So basically I've locked in a few:
Chemistry
French
Maths Methods

I'm considering English Language and Specialist Maths. I want to do Med in Uni and all I need is Chem but I was wondering which other subjects I should do?

Specifically, I'm leaning towards English Language but I'm not 100% sure yet, can someone please tell me what the pros/cons are for English Language and English?

And with Specialist Maths, I'll put it this way: maths is my forte. I was wondering if I want to do specialist maths are there any subjects I need to do in Year 11? Like General for example, should I do that?

And any other suggestions for other subjects?

Thanks :)

For spec, you have to do General S in year 11.

English language isn't too bad. You've got to be really pedantic, and it can be quite tiresome at times, though it's certainly very interesting. It's also a little easier to achieve a high score in because of the scaling and the student numbers.
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Re: Not sure which subjects to do for VCE yet
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 11:42:39 pm »
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Do biology! It's not too hard, the subject material is really interesting and it's by far the best VCE science subject1.


English language is more related to the technical analysis of English (semantics, linguistics, language constructs etc.) - essentially how the English language is used, while mainstream English more devoted to the analysis of why language is used in a given context, and how that use of language affects people.



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Re: Not sure which subjects to do for VCE yet
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2013, 11:46:56 pm »
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OP, I applaud you for not mentioning VCE Physics :)

For spec, you have to do General S in year 11.

You don't have to, not all schools offer it. But if it's available, do it as it does help.

And if maths is indeed your forte, Spesh is a logical option :)

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Re: Not sure which subjects to do for VCE yet
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 11:51:46 pm »
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English language is more related to the technical analysis of English (semantics, linguistics, language constructs etc.) - essentially how the English language is used, while mainstream English more devoted to the analysis of why language is used in a given context, and how that use of language affects people.

This is not exactly the case. The main goal of English Language is to analyse the use of language in context.
The problem is that neither of us have done the other, so we can't too reliably compare! My understanding is that English involves analysing and discussing texts as texts. So by that I mean that the texts are treated as a literary work. The analysis is based on them being work of literature. It examines themes, relevance to the real world...it's about talking about the content of the text. English language on the other hand looks at the purpose of the text. So in terms of analysis, you're quite right in saying that English Language does go a lot more technical. It looks at the very definite linguistics. In English, you look at a literary device as a way of appealing to an audience, creating an emotion etc etc. In English Language, you'd look at the literary device in terms of the text and in terms of what the author of that text wants to achieve. Also, there's a massive part of English language (namely unit 4) devoted to the socio-cultural aspects of language, and how variation in language is reflected in Australian English.

I feel like a bastard for actually even trying to add that. It's bloody confusing to explain!
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Re: Not sure which subjects to do for VCE yet
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 09:58:29 am »
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For spec, you have to do General S in year 11.

English language isn't too bad. You've got to be really pedantic, and it can be quite tiresome at times, though it's certainly very interesting. It's also a little easier to achieve a high score in because of the scaling and the student numbers.

Is General S specifically for Spesh? Like what are all the year eleven maths options?

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Re: Not sure which subjects to do for VCE yet
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 09:59:45 am »
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Do biology! It's not too hard, the subject material is really interesting and it's by far the best VCE science subject1.


English language is more related to the technical analysis of English (semantics, linguistics, language constructs etc.) - essentially how the English language is used, while mainstream English more devoted to the analysis of why language is used in a given context, and how that use of language affects people.



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Nooooooo way HAHAH really horrible at biology and physics! Chem's my only strong science ;)

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Re: Not sure which subjects to do for VCE yet
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 02:20:46 pm »
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Is General S specifically for Spesh? Like what are all the year eleven maths options?

General B, which leads to Further
Methods, which leads to Methods
General S, which leads into Spesh

I'm fairly sure that's how it goes. That's not say you couldn't do one of the Generals at Year 11 and then choose not to continue. And as Pi has told us too you don't really need General S for Spesh nor do you need General B for Further. Having said that, it's probably worthwhile! A lot of people move from methods into Further and think it's really easy but struggle a bit with the different concepts.
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