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[lala1911]

To study something I find relevant in todays progressive world which will lead onto me (hopefully) having a successful career.

[Limista]

Honestly I don't even know why I want a good ATAR anymore. I literally feel like I'm just programmed to work this final mile after working all year; am totally numb to anything else. LOL I feel like a machine. 

[Lolly]

I DON'T KNOW

EDIT: Because Canberra, ANU and the PhB. I think that's what I want. Although the thought of four more years of study like this makes me wonder if that *is* what I really want. Perhaps my perspective is slightly skewed right now.

 I CAN'T HELP FEELING RIGHT NOW LIKE ANOTHER PERSON IN THE SYSTEM WHO AT THE END WILL BE ASSIGNED A MEANINGLESS NUMBER. #NIHILISMANDANARCHY

SECOND EDIT: Sorry to be negative! i'm actually looking forward to heaps of stuff once I finish. Like writing whatever I want to. No essays, no reports, no annotating, no exegeses, no timelines, no historiography, no German, no analysis!! Just...my own stories and poetry. That's something I guess, but I don't feel that's ATAR related.

I suppose I want to get good scores so I can tutor and pass on my knowledge. I really enjoy teaching people. That's something that AN has allowed me to do.

And I want to make myself proud and know that I worked as hard as I possibly could have, and that I at least deserved that number. I guess in that way the ATAR carries meaning.

[lala1911]

SugarMinted I've had the same feelings.. at the beginning of the year I was looking at IT courses, imagining myself there, all that :p, now I'm just working because well, I have to.

[abeybaby]

This is your first (presumably) chance to make a real life decision, and show your resolve. This is your first real chance to be the strongest person you can be. Good luck!

[sjayne]

To get a job that I like  with a decent salary
and prove what I can do to my friends/family.

[jeanweasley]

Just a side question, many of you have listed that you want to 'prove' others wrong. Why is this? What makes you so convinced that you can do it and how do you motivate yourself to reach for that desired ATAR score? Motivation can only last for bouts of time, but what makes you want to soldier on? Why is proving others wrong, those who doubted you etc, so important? Why do you always have to, in a sense, win?

[Stick]

Just a side question, many of you have listed that you want to 'prove' others wrong. Why is this? What makes you so convinced that you can do it and how do you motivate yourself to reach for that desired ATAR score? Motivation can only last for bouts of time, but what makes you want to soldier on? Why is proving others wrong, those who doubted you etc, so important? Why do you always have to, in a sense, win?

You sound like you're trying to suss out a potential idea for a context response (you do Encountering Conflict, right?).

Maybe it's not proving others wrong, but perhaps proving to themselves that others were wrong. Does that make sense? There's a slight difference there. Rather than trying to change the mindset of others and align it with their own, perhaps they're just trying to separate their own mindset from others. When so many people are telling you that you can't do something, it's obvious that after a while that you'll start to believe it yourself to an extent deep down, even if you know that it's ultimately unlikely. It's human nature, I guess.

Woah, this reads terribly. I hope I made at least some sort of sense there. :S

[Limista]

Just a side question, many of you have listed that you want to 'prove' others wrong. Why is this? What makes you so convinced that you can do it and how do you motivate yourself to reach for that desired ATAR score? Motivation can only last for bouts of time, but what makes you want to soldier on? Why is proving others wrong, those who doubted you etc, so important? Why do you always have to, in a sense, win?

To many, the VCE is a game. Some people may perceive it to be a game of checkers, others may think that it's like playing chess, and yet again, others will call it a 'marathon'. 

For me, the VCE is a race and the ATAR denotes a place in this race. 

So, a competitive environment has ultimately been created.

And what do we want in a competition? We want to win.

[darvell]

Just a side question, many of you have listed that you want to 'prove' others wrong. Why is this? What makes you so convinced that you can do it and how do you motivate yourself to reach for that desired ATAR score? Motivation can only last for bouts of time, but what makes you want to soldier on? Why is proving others wrong, those who doubted you etc, so important? Why do you always have to, in a sense, win?

I don't think anyone is really convinced. I knew it was a possibility because people did it before me. Literally, here's a neat proof that I liked a lot.
"It is possible for persons to reach my goal"
"I am a person"
"Therefore, I can reach my goal."

That's how I think of anything. Physical, mental. It is possible for humans to run 1000m in 3 minutes. I am a human. I will run 1000m in 3 minutes. 
Fear made me soldier on though. Like, <90 would have been extremely embarrassing for me after I had told everyone (and I did this deliberately to set myself up, sadistic prick) that I was going to get a 90 and whatever else. So shame/embarrassment/fear of failure/inadequacy. I used to think "When you're a teacher, you're going to have students ask you what your ATAR was... How can you expect the best students to have faith in you if it was shit?"
I don't know why proving people wrong was so important. It's pretty demented, really.... I'm not so much that way now (probably becaues people don't doubt me as much). Maybe proving people wrong is a punishment thing. (excuse me while I analyse myself here). Like... I dunno, when people used to doubt me I used to hate them for it and want them to suffer, or just want them to be less. So I guess if I could prove them wrong and then not even mention it, I could know that they knew that I was better than them because I didn't have to be a prick back to them (even though I was being a prick on the inside).
Ultimately I think it just stems from low self-esteem and basing your own self-worth on what others think of you. You care what they think, even if you're saying "i don't give a fuck what you think so I'll do it anyway"... so I guess the constant care about what other people think is what did/does it.
So I guess it's so important so you can be worthwhile as a person in a really fucked up way. You have to win so you can be happy, because if you don't 'win' you're worthless.

*all from the memories of my demented mentality

Edit: this is Brenden. Fuck. just realised I was logged into my sister's account instead of mine. Woops.

[s.ay]

In my case, I think it's more to prove past me wrong.

[vashappenin]

3 reasons:
- I've been working my butt off this whole year and it'd be nice to see all the hard work and stress pay off!
- So I can get into the uni course that I'm aiming for
- It'd be nice to actually get something rewarding out of 13 long years of schooling.

[simba]

Just a side question, many of you have listed that you want to 'prove' others wrong. Why is this? What makes you so convinced that you can do it and how do you motivate yourself to reach for that desired ATAR score? Motivation can only last for bouts of time, but what makes you want to soldier on? Why is proving others wrong, those who doubted you etc, so important? Why do you always have to, in a sense, win?

I guess I'm just so freaking sick of people thinking my dreams and ambitions are beyond my capabilities. Yes, I know at the end of the day I shouldn't care what others think about me, (because there's plenty of people who support me) but I can't help but let it get to me.
For me it's not about precisely about 'winning', rather, like what stick mentioned above, to rid myself of the doubt in my abilities placed upon myself by others.

[jeanweasley]

You sound like you're trying to suss out a potential idea for a context response (you do Encountering Conflict, right?).

Nope, lol. Whose Reality? haha. But I'm not, I'm just curious why it's so important to prove others wrong. It's like if somebody makes a mistake, the sentiment is always like, 'Yeah, you're wrong'. Why can't it be 'Oh yeah, I proved myself right?' Do you get what I mean?

Maybe it's not proving others wrong, but perhaps proving to themselves that others were wrong. Does that make sense? There's a slight difference there. Rather than trying to change the mindset of others and align it with their own, perhaps they're just trying to separate their own mindset from others. When so many people are telling you that you can't do something, it's obvious that after a while that you'll start to believe it yourself to an extent deep down, even if you know that it's ultimately unlikely. It's human nature, I guess.

Oh. Yeah, I don't really care what others say, but I also want to prove others' opinion of me wrong. Getting a high ATAR would be like 'Fuck you, asshole'. I know what I can do but it just pisses me off when people belittle you and judge you because they can. It's annoying.

When you're a teacher, you're going to have students ask you what your ATAR was... How can you expect the best students to have faith in you if it was shit?"

Lol.

Ultimately I think it just stems from low self-esteem and basing your own self-worth on what others think of you.

I also think that it's also because other people are dicks and think they're better than you. Normally, the people who judge you are the ones that have low opinion of themselves and are pretty much shitheads who think they know everything.

I used to hate them for it and want them to suffer, or just want them to be less

I still do, because those who belittle me are the ones closest to me so it sucks when you have to deal with what they have to say and you can't,or at least you don't have the authority to say a powerful rebut to them. Like I don't measure myself against others, but if people are constantly criticising you and trying to control you and telling you that doing a fucking Arts/Law course is going to land you in the fucking sewers, it's a little hard to ignore. Like, sorry that you didn't care about the subjects I chose til now.

Sorry, not sorry for the rant, haha.

In my case, I think it's more to prove past me wrong.

I want to prove future me right. haha.

I guess I'm just so freaking sick of people thinking my dreams and ambitions are beyond my capabilities. Yes, I know at the end of the day I shouldn't care what others think about me, (because there's plenty of people who support me) but I can't help but let it get to me.
For me it's not about precisely about 'winning', rather, like what stick mentioned above, to rid myself of the doubt in my abilities placed upon myself by others.

Same!

[KingofDerp]

Just a side question, many of you have listed that you want to 'prove' others wrong. Why is this? What makes you so convinced that you can do it and how do you motivate yourself to reach for that desired ATAR score? Motivation can only last for bouts of time, but what makes you want to soldier on? Why is proving others wrong, those who doubted you etc, so important? Why do you always have to, in a sense, win?

Who doesnt like being right? Is there a reason we cant do it? People have done it, they do it every year, why should we doubt ourselves and think we cant. Even with doing well in VCE, theres a sense of moral in it. whats the right thing to do? Be a lazy butthole and sit around all day watching breaking bad instead of studying, or FEEDING UR MIND WITH KNOWLEDGE AND DEVELOPING A DISTINCTIVIE SENSE OF SELF RAARARARA. so yeh i think its a moral thing as well, and it tends to be the more high morally shifted sometimes that believe trying their best is indeed the best thing for them, and the right thing to do.
Humans are also drawn to success I guess