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Lolly's Russian Revolution question thread
« on: November 03, 2013, 05:11:21 pm »
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Hey guys,

So I'm revising Russia at the moment and I've found a few gaps in my knowledge. I'm going to put my questions here and hopefully we can figure them out together. Feel free to ask questions as well.

I'm going to add to this as I go:

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When was Soviet no. 1 abolished? (  date?)

Is there a specific date for when the oath of the red warrior was actually written/ first taken by troops?

When in 1918 were trade unions and the court system abolished?

What part did Alexandra Kollontai and the Workers Opposition movement have to play in the Kronstadt rebellion? My class notes seem to say that Kronstadt was crushed by Lenin and Trotsky in response to Kollontai's publication as well as the Manifesto. However I looked it up and Kollontai published her thesis in the January of that year. (so before Kronstadt.) In that case, did the Opposition movement have anything at all to do with Kronstadt?? ( lol I know I'm being pedantic)

Will update soon.
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Re: Lolly's Russian Revolution question thread
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2013, 07:33:15 pm »
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AoS2:
Alexandra Kollontai and her group, the Worker's Opposition was a structural force which presented a political opposition. It links with the Kronstadt Rebellion itself because it presented itself as a force that would gain rapid support and only undermine the legitimacy of the Bolshevik Party (not that it was already falling due to the War Communism). Nonetheless, both the Kronstadt Rebellion and Worker's Opposition was enough to highlight the Bolshevik Party's inability to both achieve success with their socialist ideals, nor, represent themselves properly as the vanguard of the revolution'. Would be removed with Lenin's Decree on "Party Unity" (March 1921)./
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Re: Lolly's Russian Revolution question thread
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2013, 07:50:36 pm »
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Re the legal system, I had 24th of November 1917, when it was replaced with 'revolutionary justice'
Sorry if that's of no help, I shall dig around my old Revs notes for anything else :)
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Re: Lolly's Russian Revolution question thread
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2013, 08:07:15 pm »
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AoS2:
Alexandra Kollontai and her group, the Worker's Opposition was a structural force which presented a political opposition. It links with the Kronstadt Rebellion itself because it presented itself as a force that would gain rapid support and only undermine the legitimacy of the Bolshevik Party (not that it was already falling due to the War Communism). Nonetheless, both the Kronstadt Rebellion and Worker's Opposition was enough prove to highlight the Bolshevik Party's inability to both achieve success with their socialist ideals, nor, represent themselves properly as the vanguard of the revolution'. Would be removed with Lenin's Decree on "Party Unity" (March 1921).

Yes, that makes more sense now. So...just running through with my own words.... both the "Worker's Opposition" and Kronstadt were reflections of internal dissent - ideological challenges from groups who were once most loyal to the revolution.   This was significant because the core principles of the Communist party were no longer supported by the majority and they had to resort to authoritarianism to remain in power. ( e.g banning factionalism)

Thanks :)


Re the legal system, I had 24th of November 1917, when it was replaced with 'revolutionary justice'
Sorry if that's of no help, I shall dig around my old Revs notes for anything else :)

Thank you very much, I shall use that date. :) Much appreciated.

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Re: Lolly's Russian Revolution question thread
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2013, 08:37:54 pm »
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Yes, that makes more sense now. So...just running through with my own words.... both the "Worker's Opposition" and Kronstadt were reflections of internal dissent - ideological challenges from groups who were once most loyal to the revolution.   This was significant because the core principles of the Communist party were no longer supported by the majority and they had to resort to authoritarianism to remain in power. ( e.g banning factionalism)

Thanks :)


Thank you very much, I shall use that date. :) Much appreciated.

Now that's an interesting idea I never thought of before. Cheers for that.
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Re: Lolly's Russian Revolution question thread
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 07:11:27 pm »
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Can someone briefly sum up the original ideologies of the Bolshevik party?

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Re: Lolly's Russian Revolution question thread
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 08:15:26 pm »
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Id say short term was: peace, land-peasants, bread
then long term: socialise the nation-communism, more 'equality' though this was directed at the workers, no exploitation of the workers
and Lenin/Trotsky had the idea of the 'proletarian conquering the world' with socialist revolution and for it to spread
When really they sort of took power from the nobles and gave it to elite non-nobles :p

What other aims did they have? I know there were others
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Re: Lolly's Russian Revolution question thread
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2013, 08:30:00 pm »
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Off the top of my head, they proposed 'All power to the Soviets' which is ironic considering that within the first six months of their rule, the established the Sovnarkom (November 1917) which was meant to represent the soviets, but became quite purely Bolshevik. They also wished to create a socialist economy that abolished private enterprise. Heh. Nek minnut, NEP  ;) Furthermore, they envisioned a 'classless utopian society' but judging from the as events that panned out, we can infer that they merely replaced one class system with another.

My teacher told me to differentiate from Lenin's motives and the Bolshevik party's. So I'm not really sure if those ideals more represent Lenin's ideologies or the Bolsheviks.