1984 by George Orwell

[kido_1]

“Freedom Is Slavery” because, according to the Party, the man who is independent is doomed to fail. For instance Winston wins 'the victory over himself..He loved Big Brother' and the same applies for Julia.

 By the same token, “Slavery Is Freedom,” because the man subjected to the collective will is free from danger and want. (Consider the plight of the proles.)

[droodles]

Being that Aaronson, Jones and Rutherford were the original leaders of the revolution, what other bit of significance was behind them?

[kido_1]

Being that Aaronson, Jones and Rutherford were the original leaders of the revolution, what other bit of significance was behind them?

An interesting question.

If one was to delve into George Orwell's personal exemplar and the context of 1984, as well as some of Orwell's previous texts, especially Animal Farm, it is clear that Orwell has a savour for Russia during the era of the Soviet Union.

Thus, construing Orwell and his conventions, Aaronson, Jones and Rutherford can be thought to be parallel in representation to the real-life Soviets Leon Trotsky, Lev Kamenev (Trotsky's brother-in-law), and Grigori Zinoviev. These three individuals were the last to oppose Stalin’s absolute rule. Of course, they lost out in the end. Kamenev and Zinoviev capitulated and agreed to sign statements promising not to create conflict in the movement by making speeches attacking official policies. Leon Trotsky refused to sign and was banished. All these 3 individuals played an integral role in enforcing Communist ideals in Russia.

NB: Rutherford is an NZ Chemist and Intellectual. These 3 individuals could be thought of as the English analogue of the Russians.

[brendan]

“Freedom Is Slavery” because, according to the Party, the man who is independent is doomed to fail. For instance Winston wins 'the victory over himself..He loved Big Brother' and the same applies for Julia.

 By the same token, “Slavery Is Freedom,” because the man subjected to the collective will is free from danger and want. (Consider the plight of the proles.)

doublethink is used more often in real life than you think: http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/rights-of-the-homeless/2008/01/29/1201369130956.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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One thing I didn't understand when I studied 1984 was doublethink. I just don't get it, it doesn't make sense. How can you hold two contradictory beliefs and yet believe in both simultaneously? It's like saying, I hate apples, and I love apples. P and not P is a contradiction. Also, doesn't doublethink imply that the public (or at least a good percentage) knows about the Party's corrruption? On the one hand, everything the Party tells is lie, on the other hand, it's truth. You have to know that the party is corrupt to be able to 'doublethink', if it's even possible at all. I dunno, I'm just confused here

[Collin Li]

I think it might just be hypocrisy, but yeah, I never really understood it either. I have seen opinion articles accuse groups of "doublethink" when they make hypocrites of themselves (by opposing some proposal while later on advocating something similar, or of similar principle)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
The example on this article disagrees with me.

[Mao]

One thing I didn't understand when I studied 1984 was doublethink. I just don't get it, it doesn't make sense. How can you hold two contradictory beliefs and yet believe in both simultaneously? It's like saying, I hate apples, and I love apples. P and not P is a contradiction. Also, doesn't doublethink imply that the public (or at least a good percentage) knows about the Party's corrruption? On the one hand, everything the Party tells is lie, on the other hand, it's truth. You have to know that the party is corrupt to be able to 'doublethink', if it's even possible at all. I dunno, I'm just confused here

its not quite that

doublethink is where you GENUINELY believed that the party is right, and whatever that you hold true is just a spick of imagination that you can push away. Everything change, you cannot even trust yourself (this is shown by the arrest of Parsons, whom still believed the party was right even when locked up in minilove)

doublethink is conscious yet unconcious, but it's basically a tool that you selectively call up information when it suits the situation, and always genuinely believing that its the truth regardless of its distance away from the truth. It removes guilt, it makes the party ABSOLUTE and ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

and doublethink does not require the proles, they are distracted with other things such as the productions from pornosec and the lotto and etc, so long as their public hatred and fervour shown towards the enemy is kept, the party is in control (actually it'll be in control regardless, as production and war keep them in line and satisfied with the poor way of life...

doublethink requires the party members (essentially the outer party, as the inner party knows the truth as truth, i.e. O'Brien) to be totally loyal to the state in front of anything else, even themselves (and by removing the family by putting kids into "scouts" and removing possesion and eliminating love and sex and all that get rid of practically all other types of attachments), which can be said to be fascist, and this clearly shown contradiction shows how George Orwell dispise the fascist militarist government.

it's totally against logic, but it somewhat makes sense, and it works... somewhat

[millstone]

PART 1

Chapter 1

1.   What is the function of Big Brother in Oceania?
2.   What is ironic about the names of the ministries?
3.   What is the purpose of the Two Minutes Hate?


Chapter 2

4.   Why is the Youth League so sinister?
5.   What evidence is there in this chapter of continual war? Why is this theme important?


Chapter 3

6.   What is the significance of the Golden Country?

Chapter 4

7.   What is the irony in Winston’s ability to do excellent work?

Chapter 5

8.   Why does Orwell make the Parsons’ children appear so cruel?

Chapter 6

9.   What is the Party’s view on love and deep personal feelings one human being may have for another?




Chapter 7

10.   Who was Goldstein?
11.   What is meant by, “Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four”?

Chapter 8

12.   Why is the fascination with the lives of the proles dangerous to Winston?

PART 2

Chapter 2

1.   What is a black market and why does it exist in this novel?


Chapter 3

2.   What does Winston mean when he says, “We are the dead”? Why does he say it now?

Chapter 4

3.   What is the significance of the paperweight for Winston?

Chapter 5

4.   Why is Hate Week important to the Party?

Chapter 7

5.   What is ironic about Winston saying, “They can’t get inside you.” ?

Chapter 9

6.   What was Mr Charrington’s real role?


PART 3

Chapter 1

1.   What does Winston learn about intense pain?

Chapter 2

2.   Why won’t Big Brother die?


Chapter 3

3.   Why does the Party really want power?
4.   What does Winston see in the mirror?
5.   What is the final layer of Winston’s resistance that O’Brien must destroy?

Chapter 4

6.   Why is Winston taken to Room 101?





Chapter 5

7.   What is in Room 101 and how does it apply to Winston?
8.   Why does he scream, “Do it to Julia”?

Chapter 6

9.   How has Winston changed physically, mentally and emotionally?
10.   What is the meaning of the final sentence?


if someone will answer these questions for me i'd be very grateful haha

[kido_1]

Most of those questions are simple comprehension questions.

[Mao]

GEEz millstone we'll help and discuss a topic, but not do your homework! lol :p

[kido_1]

Come to think of it, that is pretty much a summary of what happens in 1984.
Your school seems pretty ahead.
That wouldn't be Holiday HW.

[Toothpaste]

Being that Aaronson, Jones and Rutherford were the original leaders of the revolution, what other bit of significance was behind them?

An interesting question.

If one was to delve into George Orwell's personal exemplar and the context of 1984, as well as some of Orwell's previous texts, especially Animal Farm, it is clear that Orwell has a savour for Russia during the era of the Soviet Union.

Thus, construing Orwell and his conventions, Aaronson, Jones and Rutherford can be thought to be parallel in representation to the real-life Soviets Leon Trotsky, Lev Kamenev (Trotsky's brother-in-law), and Grigori Zinoviev. These three individuals were the last to oppose Stalin’s absolute rule. Of course, they lost out in the end. Kamenev and Zinoviev capitulated and agreed to sign statements promising not to create conflict in the movement by making speeches attacking official policies. Leon Trotsky refused to sign and was banished. All these 3 individuals played an integral role in enforcing Communist ideals in Russia.

NB: Rutherford is an NZ Chemist and Intellectual. These 3 individuals could be thought of as the English analogue of the Russians.

A bit of that's from here:
http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-dict.html

Under "Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford".

[kido_1]

Being that Aaronson, Jones and Rutherford were the original leaders of the revolution, what other bit of significance was behind them?

An interesting question.

If one was to delve into George Orwell's personal exemplar and the context of 1984, as well as some of Orwell's previous texts, especially Animal Farm, it is clear that Orwell has a savour for Russia during the era of the Soviet Union.

Thus, construing Orwell and his conventions, Aaronson, Jones and Rutherford can be thought to be parallel in representation to the real-life Soviets Leon Trotsky, Lev Kamenev (Trotsky's brother-in-law), and Grigori Zinoviev. These three individuals were the last to oppose Stalin’s absolute rule. Of course, they lost out in the end. Kamenev and Zinoviev capitulated and agreed to sign statements promising not to create conflict in the movement by making speeches attacking official policies. Leon Trotsky refused to sign and was banished. All these 3 individuals played an integral role in enforcing Communist ideals in Russia.

NB: Rutherford is an NZ Chemist and Intellectual. These 3 individuals could be thought of as the English analogue of the Russians.

A bit of that's from here:
http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-dict.html

Under "Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford".

True, that is actually a really good webpage to keep intact with Orwell, Characters and events.

[kido_1]

In fact, it might be have a lot of answers to the questions someone previously posted.

[Toothpaste]

In fact, it might be have a lot of answers to the questions someone previously posted.

Definitely.

millstone: I'll give you brief answers to a few questions. Be sure to expand on them where possible.

What is ironic about the names of the ministries?
-The names are the opposite of what they really mean. Eg; minitrue was about fraud and rewriting records etc.

What is the significance of the Golden Country?
- It's Winston's dream world; untouched by the Party.

Why does Orwell make the Parsons’ children appear so cruel?
-Shows how much the youth league manipulated them. Relate your answer to the 'sinister' one btw.

What is the significance of the paperweight for Winston?
- His symbol of happiness and security. Check page 154.
It was as though the surface of the glass had been the arch of the sky, enclosing a tiny world with its atmosphere complete. He had the feeling that he could get inside it, and that in fact he was inside it ..."
"The paperweight was the room he was in, and the coral was Julia's life and his own, fixed in a sort of eternity at the heart of the crystal."

What was Mr Charrington’s real role?
- Thought Police member.

Why won’t Big Brother die?
- He possibly doesn't exist.