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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5385 on: July 17, 2016, 07:59:25 pm »
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Yo guys can someone tell me what I should look out for in an equilibrium prac exam question
(I.E its a question in a test not based on a practical you've done, and they tell you to give the errors -- where do they usually trip people up?)
So far all I have is that in an equilibrium with gasses, the vessel must be closed - so an open beaker would not suffice.

What else must I look out for? What else is expected in an equilibrium?
Just to clarify: Errors in instrumentation I mainly need assistance with, but feel free to chip in anything you think would help :)
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5386 on: July 17, 2016, 08:25:46 pm »
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Another question - with energy profile diagrams, does the position of the y intercept matter?
Like does it matter if you say its 100 kJ or 0 kJ - coz what you're stating in that graph is the activation energy and the delta H value - so as long as the magnitudes are right is your graph right?

Is this correct?
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5387 on: July 17, 2016, 09:47:06 pm »
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This question has been bugging me for quite some time now...what is the difference between core charge and electronegativity?
I know that core charge is the attraction between the nucleus and the valence electrons while electronegativity is the ability of an atom to attract electrons towards itself, but in terms of their trends in the periodic table, I'm not sure what the difference is.
For example, apparently core charge remains the same down a group but how can that be? Shouldn't it decrease since there are more shells, meaning the valence electron is further from the nucleus, so there is less attraction between the valence electrons and the nucleus?
Another example is how, in the explanations of why electronegativity decreases down a group and increases across a period, the textbook mentions attraction between the valence electrons and the nucleus, and not between the atom and other electrons, like the definition of electronegativity states.
Also I'm not sure of the difference between the reason why electronegativity increases across a period and why core charge increases across a period.
I am so confused by this. Any help is appreciated! Thanks :D
I haven't learnt much about core charge, but:
- it increases across a period because the number of valence electrons increases, whilst the protons also increase, hence the attractive force increases when you move across the table (more protons + electrons = stronger attraction).
- As the number of shells increases, the core charge decreases? Since as your number of shells increases, the attractive force between the inner shells and the nucleus decreases.
I reckon its similar to electronegativity. Theoretically it should increase as electronegativity increases, but I don't think that's the case (after googling).

-Idk what you mean by electronegativity states, but it's because electronegativity also highlights how badly an atom wants to keep its own electrons. If its strong enough to attract electrons from another element, it must be strong enough to keep its own from going to that element? So if it wants to keep its electrons, the attractive force between the nucleus and the valence electrons must be stronger. This can be achieved by: more electrons in the outer shell, and/or fewer shells. Hence fluorine...
The elements with high electronegativities tend to hog the electrons, i.e. they keep their own, and take others. So basically, both the relationship between the atom (nucleus and valence electrons) and other elements are kinda linked.

Finally, since core charge is similar to electronegativity, pretty sure it changes similarly. Both increase with ability of the nucleus to attract electrons, hence why across the period, you have more electrons, meaning a stronger attractive force!

Another question - with energy profile diagrams, does the position of the y intercept matter?
Like does it matter if you say its 100 kJ or 0 kJ - coz what you're stating in that graph is the activation energy and the delta H value - so as long as the magnitudes are right is your graph right?

Is this correct?
It's usually measured from 0. If the reactants are at 100 kJ, my y-int would be at 100 kJ. I wouldn't start at 0 personally and I'm not entirely sure if you're allowed to. This would probs be a question for school teachers, since its risky.
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5388 on: July 17, 2016, 09:53:15 pm »
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I haven't learnt much about core charge, but:
- it increases across a period because the number of valence electrons increases, whilst the protons remain the same, hence the attractive force increases when you move across the table.

Well, the number of protons does not remain the same across a period; rather, moving across a period, each successive element has one more proton than the last.

Another question - with energy profile diagrams, does the position of the y intercept matter?
Like does it matter if you say its 100 kJ or 0 kJ - coz what you're stating in that graph is the activation energy and the delta H value - so as long as the magnitudes are right is your graph right?

Is this correct?

The y-axis intercept wouldn't be set at 0 kJ mol-1, because that'd be saying that the reactants have no energy, which is obviously not true. I wouldn't label an energy for the reactants (or for the products) unless this has been given to you; otherwise, you'd just be guessing.
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5389 on: July 17, 2016, 09:54:06 pm »
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Well, the number of protons does not remain the same across a period; rather, moving across a period, each successive element has one more proton than the last.
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5390 on: July 17, 2016, 11:20:54 pm »
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Yo guys can someone tell me what I should look out for in an equilibrium prac exam question
(I.E its a question in a test not based on a practical you've done, and they tell you to give the errors -- where do they usually trip people up?)
So far all I have is that in an equilibrium with gasses, the vessel must be closed - so an open beaker would not suffice.

What else must I look out for? What else is expected in an equilibrium?
Just to clarify: Errors in instrumentation I mainly need assistance with, but feel free to chip in anything you think would help :)

Hmm... do you mean like,
the chemical reaction has to be reversible, and the temperature and pressure have to be constant? (Particularly the temperature) o:
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5391 on: July 17, 2016, 11:28:25 pm »
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Hmm... do you mean like,
the chemical reaction has to be reversible, and the temperature and pressure have to be constant? (Particularly the temperature) o:
Yeah - but more about the equipment. - soz I'm being awfully vague but its just that I dont know what im looking for xD -
Like the question gives you a procedure of a prac and it asks you "identify 3 errors in the procedure"
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5392 on: July 18, 2016, 12:17:01 am »
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Yeah - but more about the equipment. - soz I'm being awfully vague but its just that I dont know what im looking for xD -
Like the question gives you a procedure of a prac and it asks you "identify 3 errors in the procedure"

Do you have an example we can look at? Usually with this stuff it's a case-by-case basis type of thing, and actually not related at all to the topic. (for example, titration questions like this are very common, and one possible answer is simply not washing the glassware appropriately, as opposed to some issue in the experimentation relevant to titrations. Glassware washing should go for all experiments!!)

These also come under the types of questions were there's no point in trying to memorise chunks and chunks of stuff, but rather just raise exposure. Every time you do an experiment, ask yourself - what issues could I have had? What if I changed things up? Do the same every time you encounter an extended response question where they detail a procedure, even if they're not asking for it.

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5393 on: July 18, 2016, 07:57:24 am »
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Oh okay, sorry Swagabuttal..! :c I guess in addition to melty meithy, you could make sure you avoid contaminating the solutions you're using, and use distilled water rather than tap water as tap water tends to contain impurities that could affect your solutions if you were to dilute them or something. (I looked at some equilibrium practicals and it seems that sometimes you'd have to add water so). I hope this is more helpful ^
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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5394 on: July 18, 2016, 10:34:54 am »
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Why isn't the answer B?

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« Reply #5395 on: July 18, 2016, 10:56:33 am »
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Why is the answer D?

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Re: VCE Chemistry Question Thread
« Reply #5396 on: July 18, 2016, 12:11:25 pm »
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Why is the answer D?
A deliquescent solution will have a lower concentration as it pulls water out of the atmosphere. This means there is a lower mol of solute in the solution, so a smaller volume of the unknown species will be required to reach the endpoint, hence it would have a higher than actual concentration.
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« Reply #5397 on: July 18, 2016, 12:31:41 pm »
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Why isn't the answer B?

No clue - B is a possible answer as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately the study design doesn't state if VCAA only concern themselves with "perfect" polymers or not (i.e., polymers where everything is the same order), so I can't rule out it being B because VCAA don't consider that to be a "proper" monomer unit.

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« Reply #5398 on: July 18, 2016, 12:58:00 pm »
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A deliquescent solution will have a lower concentration as it pulls water out of the atmosphere. This means there is a lower mol of solute in the solution, so a smaller volume of the unknown species will be required to reach the endpoint, hence it would have a higher than actual concentration.

If it's a smaller volume of the unknown species, wouldn't you get a lower than actual concentration?

Experimental errors are going to be the death of me.

No clue - B is a possible answer as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately the study design doesn't state if VCAA only concern themselves with "perfect" polymers or not (i.e., polymers where everything is the same order), so I can't rule out it being B because VCAA don't consider that to be a "proper" monomer unit.

So if a similar question were to pop up in a VCAA exam, how would I know whether to circle A or B? Or would they only have one or the other in the exam?


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« Reply #5399 on: July 18, 2016, 01:02:18 pm »
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quick question- how do we determine what units to leave equilibrium questions in? i'd give examples but can't find any right not- but for example, sometimes they would leave the unit in M^-2, M^-1, M etc. is there a way to determine what to leave it as?

also why is this question's final unit M^-2 ? thanks :) (question 21)
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