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« Reply #7590 on: April 27, 2016, 06:17:15 pm »
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is it true that homeostasis and positive/negative feedback is not in the course so you don't have to know it?

Homeostasis and negative feedback are definitely part of the course, who told u it wasnt? However, im pretty sure positive feed back systems don't occur to often on the exam but its still good to know!
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« Reply #7591 on: April 27, 2016, 06:25:48 pm »
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Negative and positive feedback are no longer part of the VCE Biology course. Homeostasis, however, is.
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« Reply #7592 on: April 27, 2016, 07:13:20 pm »
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But why doflamingo........... why........................
*laughs* xD Doffy>everyone
Homeostasis and negative feedback are definitely part of the course, who told u it wasnt? However, im pretty sure positive feed back systems don't occur to often on the exam but its still good to know!

the study design told me? it's still in the textbooks but it's not assessable hahahah re-check your sources- i'm 99% sure i'm right but yeah dude if you wanna learn it, by all means :)

EDIT: homeostasis in there, not neg feed back and pos feedback
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« Reply #7593 on: April 27, 2016, 07:50:54 pm »
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*laughs* xD Doffy>everyone
the study design told me? it's still in the textbooks but it's not assessable hahahah re-check your sources- i'm 99% sure i'm right but yeah dude if you wanna learn it, by all means :)

EDIT: homeostasis in there, not neg feed back and pos feedback

On this point, it really is worth covering negative and positive feedback even though it's not there anymore. Makes things a lot clearer
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« Reply #7594 on: April 27, 2016, 08:29:40 pm »
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I'm having trouble understanding a concept with immunity involving B and Th cells:

Generally, antigens make their way to a lymph node where they eventually match to a B Cell antibody as per clonal selection. That B Cell then expands and proliferates in clonal expansion to give rise to B-Memory and plasma cells, and so on. What I'm having trouble understanding is the role of Th cells, because they activate B Cells (and Tc cells) to do what they do, so does clonal selection (the antigen 'selecting' the appropriate B Cell in the lymph node) still happen?

Sorry if I made myself too confusing :)

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« Reply #7595 on: April 28, 2016, 07:00:43 pm »
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Hey everyone!
It would be so awesome if someone could explain the difference between gap junctions and adheren junctions (in animal cells).
Thanks!! :D
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« Reply #7596 on: April 28, 2016, 07:19:56 pm »
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To what depth do VCE students need to understand signal transduction? Would I need to know G-protein coupled signal transduction inside out? Thank you
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« Reply #7597 on: April 29, 2016, 10:42:56 am »
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Hey everyone!
It would be so awesome if someone could explain the difference between gap junctions and adheren junctions (in animal cells).
Thanks!! :D

It would be awesome if someone could help answer this, I have my SAC in a few hours!
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« Reply #7598 on: April 29, 2016, 12:31:56 pm »
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It would be awesome if someone could help answer this, I have my SAC in a few hours!
I highly doubt you'd need to know this and it's probably too late, but the essential difference is that gap junctions allow the passage of 'stuff' through whereas adheren junctions, as the name implies, allow cells to be connected to each other.

To what depth do VCE students need to understand signal transduction? Would I need to know G-protein coupled signal transduction inside out? Thank you
Nah, nothing about G Proteins. With signal transduction this is all that is required: reception (binding of a molecule to a specific receptor), transduction (the cascade of intracellular reactions that amplify the initial response) and the response by the cell. You should also know the difference in mechanism between hydrophilic and hydrophobic signalling molecules.
If I'm missing something let me know!

I'm having trouble understanding a concept with immunity involving B and Th cells:

Generally, antigens make their way to a lymph node where they eventually match to a B Cell antibody as per clonal selection. That B Cell then expands and proliferates in clonal expansion to give rise to B-Memory and plasma cells, and so on. What I'm having trouble understanding is the role of Th cells, because they activate B Cells (and Tc cells) to do what they do, so does clonal selection (the antigen 'selecting' the appropriate B Cell in the lymph node) still happen?

Sorry if I made myself too confusing :)
So firstly the binding of a B cell to its specific antigen can happen anywhere, although since there's a larger concentration of these cells in the lymph nodes it makes sense to see it that way.
Now, once a B cell binds, it actually remains stagnant in that clonal expansion can't occur without the aid of a T helper cell. However, a T helper cell can can only help the B cell if it first binds to an Antigen Presenting Cell (dendritic cells, macrophages and to make it more confusing, some B cells) that also have displayed on their MHC markers said antigen.
So to answer your question, clonal selection happens first then the T helper cell comes along and helps initiate clonal expansion.

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« Reply #7599 on: April 29, 2016, 01:24:36 pm »
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I highly doubt you'd need to know this and it's probably too late, but the essential difference is that gap junctions allow the passage of 'stuff' through whereas adheren junctions, as the name implies, allow cells to be connected to each other.

Thank you! And no worries, it's not too late, I have 1 hour until my SAC (of which 15 mins I can study during) :D
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« Reply #7600 on: April 30, 2016, 11:44:09 am »
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I was just wondering what the difference is between an antigen and a MHC marker and their functions, because in the N.O.B textbook they use these terms interchangeably. Furthermore, what is the difference between MHC class 1 and class 2 markers, and their function?

To my knowledge, MHC, or major histocompatibility complex, is the gene which codes for the MHC markers, which are presented on the surface of the cell (protruding from the cell's plasma membrane). The function of an MHC marker is to present the antigen in order for the immune cells to recognise the cell as 'self' or 'non-self'. Class 1 MHC markers, which are situated on all cells except red blood cells, present 'self' antigens, while Class 2 MHC markers present 'non-self' antigens, thus they are only found on specific immune cells, such as T cells, B cells, and some macrophages. I think that when an infectious pathogen invades an organism, the foreign antigen enters these immune cells via endocytosis, and through antigen presentation, they process and place the foreign antigen on MHC class 2 markers (on that note, would T cells, B cells, and some macrophages be considered as APCs [antigen presenting cells]?). 

Is this correct? Is it appropriate to imagine the MHC marker as a key-ring, and the antigen as they key which initiates an immune response? (or for this instance, opening a door). Also, if erythrocytes, or red blood cells, have no MHC markers, how can they be able to present A and B antigens? also, how would they even produce an antigen for that matter seeing that they lack a nucleus (transcription and translation wouldn't occur right?).

Finally, what modes of prevention from the second line of defence apply to different pathogens? For instance, how would macrophages engulfing a virus via phagocytosis be effective (wouldn't this just further spread the viral infection)? Do complement proteins apply to all pathogens, or just bacteria, like interferons only apply to viral infections? In the N.O.B, they tend to use micro-organisms quite frequently, making myself disassociate viral and prion infections from most modes of prevention of the second line of defence, but I'm just looking for clarification... Also, how do Natural Killer cells function? the function of Nk cells isn't really explained either in the N.O.B  :-\ . Um and how exactly to interferons work? I'm pretty sure they are secreted by cells infected by a virus, warning surrounding cells to build viral resistance via the production of antiviral proteins - just wanted to check if this is correct...

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Re: VCE Biology Question Thread
« Reply #7601 on: April 30, 2016, 09:49:01 pm »
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Hi, I just had a quick question that I couldn't find the answer to if anyone could help me...
Why can't virus particles be phagocytosed?
And in my book it said 'interferons act on or warn nearby uninfected cells, making them more resistant, so that the virus remains outside where it is more susceptible to phagocytosis', but that doesn't seem to make sense because free virus particles can't be phagocytosed anyway...? Is this not true, or am I just not understanding it properly?
If anyone could help, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks :)

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« Reply #7602 on: May 01, 2016, 12:42:36 pm »
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I was just wondering what the difference is between an antigen and a MHC marker and their functions, because in the N.O.B textbook they use these terms interchangeably. Furthermore, what is the difference between MHC class 1 and class 2 markers, and their function?

To my knowledge, MHC, or major histocompatibility complex, is the gene which codes for the MHC markers, which are presented on the surface of the cell (protruding from the cell's plasma membrane). The function of an MHC marker is to present the antigen in order for the immune cells to recognise the cell as 'self' or 'non-self'. Class 1 MHC markers, which are situated on all cells except red blood cells, present 'self' antigens, while Class 2 MHC markers present 'non-self' antigens, thus they are only found on specific immune cells, such as T cells, B cells, and some macrophages. I think that when an infectious pathogen invades an organism, the foreign antigen enters these immune cells via endocytosis, and through antigen presentation, they process and place the foreign antigen on MHC class 2 markers (on that note, would T cells, B cells, and some macrophages be considered as APCs [antigen presenting cells]?). 

Is this correct? Is it appropriate to imagine the MHC marker as a key-ring, and the antigen as they key which initiates an immune response? (or for this instance, opening a door). Also, if erythrocytes, or red blood cells, have no MHC markers, how can they be able to present A and B antigens? also, how would they even produce an antigen for that matter seeing that they lack a nucleus (transcription and translation wouldn't occur right?).

Finally, what modes of prevention from the second line of defence apply to different pathogens? For instance, how would macrophages engulfing a virus via phagocytosis be effective (wouldn't this just further spread the viral infection)? Do complement proteins apply to all pathogens, or just bacteria, like interferons only apply to viral infections? In the N.O.B, they tend to use micro-organisms quite frequently, making myself disassociate viral and prion infections from most modes of prevention of the second line of defence, but I'm just looking for clarification... Also, how do Natural Killer cells function? the function of Nk cells isn't really explained either in the N.O.B  :-\ . Um and how exactly to interferons work? I'm pretty sure they are secreted by cells infected by a virus, warning surrounding cells to build viral resistance via the production of antiviral proteins - just wanted to check if this is correct...

THANK YOU  :D

1. Antigens are foreign materials that stimulate the production of antibodies (hence antigen is antibody-generating). An MHC molecule, however, is a protein complex that presents antigens to T-cells. B-cells can bind to free antigen and Bob's your uncle, but T-cells need some extra help and can only recognise antigens when they're presented in the context of (i.e. attached to) an MHC molecule.

2. MHC class I activate cytotoxic T-cells, MHC class II activate helper T-cells. Otherwise there's very little different about them.

3. Assuming that information is correct, then yes they are all APCs. B-cells and macrophages definitely are, as well as dendritic cells. Didn't know about the T-cells though.

4. Not the best analogy but I guess so?

5. Antigens don't need to be presented to be antigens. A and B (and H as well, but we won't go into that) antigens are just glycoproteins that sit on the surface of RBCs. What you've got to appreciate is that antigens aren't specially designed to specify self or non-self. They're just normal proteins or carbs that have other functions that so happen to generate an immune response when introduced as a foreign substance.

6. There are some differences though I'm sure you could google this. The bottom line is that it's complex and involves a lot of crossover. Generally though, complement tends to be a bit more useful in bacterial infectinos, and IFN more useful in viral. Though it's not as though there isn't cross-over here either. You're right to point out about macrophages acting as a source of spread for viruses though. In some cases they do (and for some bacteria too like Tuberculosis for example), but in others they successfully kill the pathogen thereby preventing their spread.

7. That's a VCE-acceptable definition of interferons, but they are more complicated than that :)
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Re: VCE Biology Question Thread
« Reply #7603 on: May 01, 2016, 02:55:08 pm »
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"What is the energy reserve for yeast cells?"
This was in a SAC, and I answered Glycogen. However, this was marked as incorrect and glucose was the correct answer. Is this worth contesting?

I think so. Some yeast produce glycogen.
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« Reply #7604 on: May 01, 2016, 03:14:08 pm »
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I have a few questions...wondering if someone can answer them.
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