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Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« on: April 01, 2014, 07:54:42 pm »
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why should euthanasia be legalised?

1.everyone has rights
2. end suffering?

need help for more points. thanks
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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2014, 07:57:34 pm »
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-People have the right to decide when they want to die.
-Euthanasia can quickly end a patient suffering.
-Death is a private matter and if it isn’t hurting anyone, why is it illegal?
-If you keep people alive, it can cost a lot of money which can go towards saving other people’s lives.
-We use euthanasia towards animals so why are people different? They are lives in general. 

I also have points 'against' euthanasia so if you need them, let me know :)
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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2014, 08:00:45 pm »
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Sure. Everyone has rights. But explore why the right of one to bodily autonomy is more important than the right for the state to prevent you from ending your own life.

Perhaps look at possible social, economic and legal effects. What message does it send to the community about the value of life?

Also, for this topic, I think some personal anecdote/case study/case example would help a lot. Perhaps use a lot of emotive language etc.

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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2014, 08:01:35 pm »
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- Really push that a lot of people support it (Find statistics somewhere online)
- Economically sensible
- It gives families peace, being able to say goodbye to someone instead of the person having to kill them selves in another way
- People can go overseas and do it anyway
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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2014, 08:10:46 pm »
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Here is a more religious perspective. Thought it may add weight to your arguments :)

“Then he begged me, ‘Come here and put me out of my misery, for I am in terrible pain and want to die.’ So I killed him.” This quote was said by Samuel 1:9-10 If euthanasia existed during the times of God, why doesn’t it exist nowadays?
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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2014, 08:23:49 pm »
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-If you keep people alive, it can cost a lot of money which can go towards saving other people’s lives.
-We use euthanasia towards animals so why are people different? They are lives in general. 

I also have points 'against' euthanasia so if you need them, let me know :)
hmm good points . didnt think of the last 2 .  for points against ,currently i have 1. only God has power to take away life of someone . 2. society should save lives instead ?  do you have any other points? thanks  :)

Sure. Everyone has rights. But explore why the right of one to bodily autonomy is more important than the right for the state to prevent you from ending your own life.

Perhaps look at possible social, economic and legal effects. What message does it send to the community about the value of life?

Also, for this topic, I think some personal anecdote/case study/case example would help a lot. Perhaps use a lot of emotive language etc.
- Really push that a lot of people support it (Find statistics somewhere online)
- Economically sensible
- It gives families peace, being able to say goodbye to someone instead of the person having to kill them selves in another way
- People can go overseas and do it anyway

thanks for the help yhprum and sense~ xD



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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2014, 08:25:23 pm »
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AGAINST:
Euthanasia is an example of rejecting life which is valuable.
Jesus suffered on the cross, yet he didn’t cut his life short, so why are we different?
This type of suicide is devastating for the people that loved that person.
People may commit euthanasia even if it is against a person’s wish
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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2014, 11:37:32 pm »
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I personally do not condone euthanasia because:
-It is immoral and unethical
-Every patient, regardless of their degree of illness, deserves utmost care
-Both passive and active euthanasia should be banned and hence palliative care wards should be closed so that "palliative patients" who are fed high dosages of morphine can be admitted to other departments
-By legalising euthanasia, more and more medical professionals would develop the incentive to "get rid of their patients" by euthanizing them
-Patients who request to be euthanized are usually mentally ill (e.g. some suffer from depression) and hence they feel that "life is not worth living".
-Legalising euthanasia would have an adverse affect on medical research as medical professionals would begin to see euthanasia as an alternative to possible treatment options and research would therefore be slowed down or stopped completely

Great topic though! I was quite passionate about this myself when I presented last year, although funnily enough- I actually supported euthanasia back then :P
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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2014, 02:17:51 am »
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Elaborate more points and we will offer critique, don't be afraid of being wrong. It has also been mentioned here a few times if you would like to search the forum.

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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2014, 02:30:50 am »
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I personally do not condone euthanasia because:
-It is immoral and unethical
-Every patient, regardless of their degree of illness, deserves utmost care
-Both passive and active euthanasia should be banned and hence palliative care wards should be closed so that "palliative patients" who are fed high dosages of morphine can be admitted to other departments
-By legalising euthanasia, more and more medical professionals would develop the incentive to "get rid of their patients" by euthanizing them
-Patients who request to be euthanized are usually mentally ill (e.g. some suffer from depression) and hence they feel that "life is not worth living".
-Legalising euthanasia would have an adverse affect on medical research as medical professionals would begin to see euthanasia as an alternative to possible treatment options and research would therefore be slowed down or stopped completely

(2) is alright, assuming they want care. If they ask for no care, whats the option then, force it on them? Some patients do refuse care in an attempt to end their own lives (or for many other reasons of course).

(3) is problematic, morphine is for pain control, it's the gold standard drug in a way. I don't see why we shouldn't allow dying and pained people pain control. Obviously, it can be used to tip it over the edge and end their lives (either fully accidentally, partially accidentally or totally on purpose). Not really sure what passive euthanasia is, allowing people to die? They'll do that anyway. (4) is a bit problematic depending on the nature of the illness, likewise, just because someone does suffer a mental illness, it does not automatically cloud their judgment or rule them out of making decisions about their own life.

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AGAINST:
Euthanasia is an example of rejecting life which is valuable.
Jesus suffered on the cross, yet he didn’t cut his life short, so why are we different?
This type of suicide is devastating for the people that loved that person.
People may commit euthanasia even if it is against a person’s wish

Your second point is not a good argument at all (whether you believe it is another matter entirely). In arguments and debates, your opponent has to accept or at least entertain the idea you're presenting to him or her. If you say that Jesus suffered on the cross, if they just say they don't believe that Jesus was divine, your argumentation along that line falls apart, you could shut it down in a sentence. The others are a bit harder to argue against and are more convincing.

(3) is mildly problematic as well. If you ask most people the following question "Do you want to see loved ones suffer ?", almost everyone would answer "No". Suicide is devestating but so is the process of seeing someone you formerly love waste away to nothing in pain. Their death (if you are following the usual definition of euthanasia ONLY relating to those who will die soon anyway) will be sad too. Either way they are going to die. You essentially have two options here (1) their inevitable death comes quicker and they suffer less OR (2) you prolong their pain and they eventually die anyway.

It is also tinged with a bit of selfishness. Some people say suicide is selfish, i won't take a position on that. Expecting a person who is ill and discomforted to stay around because their death will devastate you is also quite selfish in my opinion. It's almost tinged with the opinion that they're "yours" or almost like property, its inwardly focused on the person asking that question or making that demand, rather than the person suffering or terminally ill. Not a personal attack on you or anyones views at all, just trying to point out the potential issues with some of the arguments. In-fact, i may agree with them but of course, that won't help anyone do well will it :p.

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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 08:40:26 am »
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I have done the same topic but I was against. Here are my arguments:
- Euthanasia can be vastly misused. 32% of Euthanasia in flemish region of Belgium was done without consent or request. Euthanasia can be used to erase medical failures. A guy named Nathan did transgender. He didnt meet his expectations, so he just euthanised himself.
- Euthanasia places the society in a 'slippery slope'. Belgium allowed Euthanasia only for a certain age group before, but now it is legal for any age. As a result, Russia decided to reconsider its law that allows belgian citizens to adopt Russian children.
- Euthanasia is unacceptable  as a global perspective. Only 3 out of hundreds of countries allow Euthanasia, which are Belgium, Luxembourg  and Netherlands. Plus it was once allowed in the NT in 1995, but outlawed again immediately after 9 months.

Rebuttals:
- People of sound mind should have the right
- as it is reponsibility of doctors to Cure the illness of their patients, sometimes ending their life is the best option to elliminate the pain.

Btw, my Rebuttals were not found good enough, and I can provide more details for the evidences if u want
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Re: Help with Oral- Euthanasia
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2014, 09:10:07 am »
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BBC Ethics did a great section on Euthanasia. You'll thank me later!