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Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« on: October 18, 2014, 04:55:41 pm »
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2014, 05:02:05 pm »
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Do you mean by writing down ideas that you've read in study guides and resource materials? If so, I would be cautious with using those references since most of the examiners write that stuff and they would hate it if you regurgitate that information back at them. I reckon using your own ideas with original interpretations will make your writing stand out. You can't bluff the examiners.
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2014, 05:10:08 pm »
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ok thanks
what about using parts of peoples essays on here

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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2014, 05:12:13 pm »
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I don't think that's a good idea, ethically speaking.
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2014, 05:15:09 pm »
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Just don't. I wouldn't risk it.
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2014, 06:02:02 pm »
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alright thanks guys! i was just wondering  ;)

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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2014, 06:20:55 pm »
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If you plagiarize anything on anywhere, you can and will be punished for it. If you have to ask "will I be failed if I do this?", you should always assume the answer is yes.

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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2014, 06:33:12 pm »
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You will NEVER fail a VCE English exam for plagiarism. Copy what you like word for word mate. Seriously, do you really think the examiners go out of their way to try and catch this?

Don't do it for SACs since your teacher knows you personally. A random examiner doesn't even know your name.

Until VCAA start using OCR software to assess the papers you have nothing to worry about.
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2014, 06:35:04 pm »
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You will NEVER fail a VCE English exam for plagiarism. Copy what you like word for word mate. Seriously, do you really think the examiners go out of their way to try and catch this?

Don't do it for SACs since your teacher knows you personally. A random examiner doesn't even know your name.

Until VCAA start using OCR software to assess the papers you have nothing to worry about.
Whether true or false, this is a horrible idea.

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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2014, 06:39:57 pm »
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Whether true or false, this is a horrible idea.

Not really. Some of us can't stand VCE English. Some people just need the numbers to get into a certain course. I know plenty of people who have done this and scored 40+ in English. It isn't moral but neither is paying 50 bucks for A+ essays from a private tutor.
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2014, 06:47:44 pm »
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Not really. Some of us can't stand VCE English. Some people just need the numbers to get into a certain course. I know plenty of people who have done this and scored 40+ in English. It isn't moral but neither is paying 50 bucks for A+ essays from a private tutor.
I also, hated English - I was pulling in straight D pluses in year 9, and I worked my butt off for the next 3 years to improve. I was lucky - I had a good support network. I had teachers who cared, and friends who helped. But all the work was mine. And so, the mark I got was mine. It wasn't the product of someone else's knowledge, or technique, or strategy or methods. It was mine, and I used every bit of help I could to create it.

Taking someone else's work and passing it off as your own is cheating.

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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2014, 07:03:00 pm »
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Is it wrong? Yes. Can you get caught? Probably not.

I am in no way supporting plagiarism, but i'm just putting it out there that you are most likely not going to get caught even if you tried.

Until specialist scanning tools come into effect for all English exams, it's essentially impossible to detect plagiarism. I don't think an examiner is going to sit there trying to compare essays, when most of the time they just want to get the marking out of the way.

Some people don't have the luxury of having a great support during VCE (English in particular), and I can guarantee that ALOT of people would do this just to satisfy university requirements.
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2014, 07:03:56 pm »
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Is it wrong? Yes. Can you get caught? Probably not.
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2014, 07:06:43 pm »
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Ehh... If you plagiarise parts of an essay, things will look really weird because of stylistic dfferenves in the language. If you plagiarise a whole essay and it's on AN, there's definitely a non-zero chance of getting caught. Teachers hand essays from this sure to their class and teach with them. The only way not to get caught guaranteed would be to get an unpublished essay from a friend or tutor.
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Re: Can you fail english exam for plagiarism?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2014, 07:09:18 pm »
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But it's not even about whether you will get caught or not.
VCAA doesn't set generic prompts, they usually change the wordings around so that the essay you copy word for word from is probably going to be really different from what the VCAA prompt is asking.

So score-wise, your assessor will see that you have just regurgitated another 10 out of 10 essay without any relevance to the prompt. Score: 5/10?

Don't get me wrong by all means read high scoring responses or study guides, but only use them as a reference but never rote-learn them and pray for the exact same topic in the VCAA exam... (the people writing the exams aren't stupid so they will come up with unique prompts...)

EDIT: beaten by Ned Nerb who basically said what I wanted to say, lol