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LFC_Kero

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is it possible to get comparative language analysis on exam?
« on: October 19, 2014, 06:59:50 pm »
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has it ever happened before? or only ever one article?

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2014, 07:22:44 pm »
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has it ever happened before? or only ever one article?

I think there was some sort of comparative task on the 2011 exam - I could be wrong, literally lauren should know for sure.
I think I may write a couple of comparative analyses this week to be safe though.

And it's never just one article - you will always a written and a visual.

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Re: is it possible to get comparative language analysis on exam?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2014, 07:28:49 pm »
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alright thanks

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Re: is it possible to get comparative language analysis on exam?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2014, 07:30:10 pm »
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I'm almost certain that 2011 did - it had a blog piece, and then comments from the blog. Unfortunately, VCAA stole it from an actual blog, so you'd have to find someone who still has the physical exam to know for sure/see what one looks like.

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Re: is it possible to get comparative language analysis on exam?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2014, 07:41:57 pm »
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I'm almost certain that 2011 did - it had a blog piece, and then comments from the blog. Unfortunately, VCAA stole it from an actual blog, so you'd have to find someone who still has the physical exam to know for sure/see what one looks like.

dang!! so i have to study how to write a comparative piece also? i have no time i only started studying english from like today theres 10 days left

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Re: is it possible to get comparative language analysis on exam?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2014, 07:46:24 pm »
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Yup, comparative pieces are on the study design and are examinable.
However, as was noted in this thread a few weeks ago, the 2011 experience screwed up the state and they received even more complaints than usual. For the past two years they've stuck to safe ground, but as we approach the tail end of the study design, they might be looking to shake things up.
Practice both and you should be fine.

2011 was the only instance this happened though; even most Practice Exam companies (CSE, Insight, TSFX) don't tend to publish many comparative pieces.

And even though the 2011 blog was a horrible example of the task, I do have a scanned copy (as well as all the other exams and visuals in case VCAA restrict copyright on those too)
A list of stuff that isn't available:
-article and visual from 2008
-the visual from 2009
-everything from 2011 (including the background info  ???)
-one visual from 2012
I'm aware not all schools give out copies, and there's no reason why some students should have that advantage when it was VCAA's screw up. Anyone who wants a copy, PM me your email and I'll send you the file. Can't post here for copyright reasons :p

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 10:07:20 pm »
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If we were to get a comparative piece, and say we got various letters-to-the-editor and comments, could we perhaps discuss the main piece in three paragraphs and then the comments in another? Also, if we got about 7-8 letters to the editor/comments, could we select a few, or must we address them all?

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Re: is it possible to get comparative language analysis on exam?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2014, 08:52:34 pm »
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If we were to get a comparative piece, and say we got various letters-to-the-editor and comments, could we perhaps discuss the main piece in three paragraphs and then the comments in another? Also, if we got about 7-8 letters to the editor/comments, could we select a few, or must we address them all?

With paragraphs, I think you could do pretty much whatever you wanted, as long as it's fluent :) Analysing the letters in a separate paragraph seems pretty organised. As for letters, my teacher said you'd be best off addressing all of them - that said, I think it's highly unlikely you'd get more than 3 or so.

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Re: is it possible to get comparative language analysis on exam?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2014, 09:08:08 pm »
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Yup, comparative pieces are on the study design and are examinable.
However, as was noted in this thread a few weeks ago, the 2011 experience screwed up the state and they received even more complaints than usual. For the past two years they've stuck to safe ground, but as we approach the tail end of the study design, they might be looking to shake things up.
Practice both and you should be fine.

2011 was the only instance this happened though; even most Practice Exam companies (CSE, Insight, TSFX) don't tend to publish many comparative pieces.

And even though the 2011 blog was a horrible example of the task, I do have a scanned copy (as well as all the other exams and visuals in case VCAA restrict copyright on those too)
A list of stuff that isn't available:
-article and visual from 2008
-the visual from 2009
-everything from 2011 (including the background info  ???)
-one visual from 2012
I'm aware not all schools give out copies, and there's no reason why some students should have that advantage when it was VCAA's screw up. Anyone who wants a copy, PM me your email and I'll send you the file. Can't post here for copyright reasons :p

What are the some of the core elements that must be addressed for a comparative piece? Is it a basically a normal language analysis piece but you have to compare and contrast between the two pieces? Sorry I've never done one before, and fearful it may be on Wednesdays exam

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Re: is it possible to get comparative language analysis on exam?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2014, 06:57:02 am »
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What are the some of the core elements that must be addressed for a comparative piece? Is it a basically a normal language analysis piece but you have to compare and contrast between the two pieces? Sorry I've never done one before, and fearful it may be on Wednesdays exam

Hey Edward Elric :)

I'm not literally lauren but I think I can give you my input.

In a comparative LA, you are still analysing the language. However, now you've not only been given a main article, but it is accompanied by letters to the editor, OR even just simple comments.

I find the best way to analyse comments or letters to the editor (particularly if they develop a POV with the writer, with a slightly different contention) is to embed them into your main article analysis.

E.g. you're discussing how the writer of the main article launches a scathing attack on the government. You could then mention how some take this outrage further, as demonstrated by comment Y. Vitriolically asserting that _____, the writer of comment Y employs [analyse comment].

So you're not excluding the comments from the actual analysis. Instead you're finding a way to embed it into the main analysis. I'm praying we DON'T get comparative, because I feel like it's really just blergh! In saying that though, I think it MAY stuff up a lot of people in the state. Hard exam means lower cut-off for A+.