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Oral on gender inequality?
« on: February 08, 2015, 08:07:32 pm »
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So I'm doing my persuasive oral on gender inequality which I'm now thinking was a bad decision.

I have the usual arguments about women not being equal in the workplace, social situations, sports etc but I'm not really sure how to argue something that will really give it the 'wow' factor lol

Do you guys think we have total gender equality? I'm just asking everyone so I can write something unbiased and somewhat interesting  :-X

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Re: Oral on gender inequality?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2015, 08:34:11 pm »
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Firstly - no, we don't have gender equality. Anybody who says we do needs to do a little reading about the benefits of both genders - and if they're still convinced we have it, do some reading on the non-binary. Below is a few paragraphs with some tips to possibly improve your speech, for safety I've spoiler-tagged it.

Whilst I've done my best to not let any triggers into this paragraph, I cannot promise you will not be distressed whilst reading it if you have been sexually abused. I have not written of any scenarios in detail, but rather the effects that come from them. Proceed with caution.

If you're writing a speech on gender inequality (or any issue, really), you need to point out the things that AREN'T expressed all the time. Otherwise, those that are sitting there who know about it will think, "yeah, I've heard all this before, whatever", and only those who aren't learned will get a "wow" in there. Of course, most people in our generation know a lot about gender equality - really, the only things people might not be aware of is social sexism. Things such as "women make 70% less for working the same job" and "men's competitive sporting is paid more highly than women's competitive sporting" are on the radar of most people. The fact that a woman is a "slut" whilst a men is a "player" is mentioned so much. However, notice how it's bad to be a female dog, but not a male dog? What's up with that?

Abuse statistics work, but if you can, try and get representatives to stand up so that the audience can clearly see what's going on. Maybe bring up some often surprising facts, such as how often those under abuse get pleasure out of it - how they endure further torment, because no matter how "wrong, degrading" and "dehumanising" it felt, it also felt "good". Further on this, how phrases such as "it's not rape if you enjoy it" suddenly make rape seem okay, when it never is.

Another thing - what about men? Sure, people know that generally the wife wins custody of the children, but what about other topics that people might not even realise affect men? I recently read an article which detailed a person's continue sexual extortion and abuse of their partner, but phrased it so you'd think it was male on female abuse, only at the end to reveal the abuser was a woman. (of course, careful when talking about these scenarios, because you might cause a trigger for someone in the audience)

Something else you could mention is the recent "meninism" trend - a parody of feminism by a bunch of ignoramuses. Here's the tricky part, because this ACTUALLY brings back Emma Watson's speech from the UN. Because #menimism is so stupid, anybody with half a mind is completely ignoring anything brought up - however, there have been some tweets where the issue pointed out is a serious issue. Of course, nobody cares, because "#menimism" (not that I blame them, at all). You can use this example to highlight the powerful point made in Emma Watson's speech, "the more we hurt one gender, the more the other gender will suffer".

Finally, really graphic scenarios are very good for putting a "holy shit" into people's heads, that follows the same risk as me simply giving advice (and why you're reading this in a spoiler-tag). Maybe talk to your school, ask if you can put a proviso at the start of your speech so those who want to leave for it, can. Hell, the simple fact that you need to give people the option to leave the room might even give you the "wow" factor you're looking for.

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Re: Oral on gender inequality?
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2015, 09:40:09 pm »
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I think this kind of topic can be done well in oral presentations, but it can sometimes be difficult to avoid sounding pretentious. It is definitely possible to construct a high quality presentation so long as you focus on handling the issue logically.

Personally, I disagree that there are inequalities between the sexes and I have my own reasons but there are a few points you could counter-argue in your oral if you are adamant about your stance. Also, try to avoid statistical fallacies; this might over-complicate things but I thought I would mention it.
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Re: Oral on gender inequality?
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2015, 10:22:50 pm »
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Firstly - no, we don't have gender equality. Anybody who says we do needs to do a little reading about the benefits of both genders - and if they're still convinced we have it, do some reading on the non-binary. Below is a few paragraphs with some tips to possibly improve your speech, for safety I've spoiler-tagged it.

Whilst I've done my best to not let any triggers into this paragraph, I cannot promise you will not be distressed whilst reading it if you have been sexually abused. I have not written of any scenarios in detail, but rather the effects that come from them. Proceed with caution.

If you're writing a speech on gender inequality (or any issue, really), you need to point out the things that AREN'T expressed all the time. Otherwise, those that are sitting there who know about it will think, "yeah, I've heard all this before, whatever", and only those who aren't learned will get a "wow" in there. Of course, most people in our generation know a lot about gender equality - really, the only things people might not be aware of is social sexism. Things such as "women make 70% less for working the same job" and "men's competitive sporting is paid more highly than women's competitive sporting" are on the radar of most people. The fact that a woman is a "slut" whilst a men is a "player" is mentioned so much. However, notice how it's bad to be a female dog, but not a male dog? What's up with that?

Abuse statistics work, but if you can, try and get representatives to stand up so that the audience can clearly see what's going on. Maybe bring up some often surprising facts, such as how often those under abuse get pleasure out of it - how they endure further torment, because no matter how "wrong, degrading" and "dehumanising" it felt, it also felt "good". Further on this, how phrases such as "it's not rape if you enjoy it" suddenly make rape seem okay, when it never is.

Another thing - what about men? Sure, people know that generally the wife wins custody of the children, but what about other topics that people might not even realise affect men? I recently read an article which detailed a person's continue sexual extortion and abuse of their partner, but phrased it so you'd think it was male on female abuse, only at the end to reveal the abuser was a woman. (of course, careful when talking about these scenarios, because you might cause a trigger for someone in the audience)

Something else you could mention is the recent "meninism" trend - a parody of feminism by a bunch of ignoramuses. Here's the tricky part, because this ACTUALLY brings back Emma Watson's speech from the UN. Because #menimism is so stupid, anybody with half a mind is completely ignoring anything brought up - however, there have been some tweets where the issue pointed out is a serious issue. Of course, nobody cares, because "#menimism" (not that I blame them, at all). You can use this example to highlight the powerful point made in Emma Watson's speech, "the more we hurt one gender, the more the other gender will suffer".

Finally, really graphic scenarios are very good for putting a "holy shit" into people's heads, that follows the same risk as me simply giving advice (and why you're reading this in a spoiler-tag). Maybe talk to your school, ask if you can put a proviso at the start of your speech so those who want to leave for it, can. Hell, the simple fact that you need to give people the option to leave the room might even give you the "wow" factor you're looking for.

Thank you so much!
I spoke to my school about it and I can't do anything like you mentioned in the second paragraph but I will use your suggestions, thank you again :)

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Re: Oral on gender inequality?
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2015, 10:23:56 pm »
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I think this kind of topic can be done well in oral presentations, but it can sometimes be difficult to avoid sounding pretentious. It is definitely possible to construct a high quality presentation so long as you focus on handling the issue logically.

Personally, I disagree that there are inequalities between the sexes and I have my own reasons but there are a few points you could counter-argue in your oral if you are adamant about your stance. Also, try to avoid statistical fallacies; this might over-complicate things but I thought I would mention it.

Yeah that's the thing... I'm having trouble not sounding biased or one-sided. Tbh this is the hardest thing I've ever had to write about and I thought it'd be one of the easiest.

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Re: Oral on gender inequality?
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2015, 10:47:12 pm »
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Yeah that's the thing... I'm having trouble not sounding biased or one-sided. Tbh this is the hardest thing I've ever had to write about and I thought it'd be one of the easiest.

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Re: Oral on gender inequality?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 12:35:11 am »
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Yeah that's the thing... I'm having trouble not sounding biased or one-sided. Tbh this is the hardest thing I've ever had to write about and I thought it'd be one of the easiest.
If you're sounding too bias, it might be the case that you haven't been critical enough of your own arguments. The only things I'm ever "sure" about are things I haven't thought about properly. Think of the best argunents against yours, and think of a way you can agree with it and point out its mistakes at the same time. It will make your argument even stronger.

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Re: Oral on gender inequality?
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2015, 01:00:15 am »
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So I'm doing my persuasive oral on gender inequality which I'm now thinking was a bad decision.

I have the usual arguments about women not being equal in the workplace, social situations, sports etc but I'm not really sure how to argue something that will really give it the 'wow' factor lol

Do you guys think we have total gender equality? I'm just asking everyone so I can write something unbiased and somewhat interesting  :-X

Try reading some of the literature available from various stand points. Read a bit of Clementine Ford (who could be fairly described as being radical feminist), then perhaps some of what Emma Watson has done (she's middle of the road—her HeForShe speech is a brilliant example of public speaking on this topic) and maybe some Mark Latham, who hates the idea of feminism etc.

Those are only three people. Obviously there are plenty more people who write on this topic, but they're three suggestions who can show you some different stand points and give you an idea about where the arguments are coming from. The interesting thing about this topic is that the arguments are often so different depending on where you come from and it does often boil down to ridiculous point scoring on each side, so I think what you can do to make your speech really good is to try to find the reality amongst all the noise and suggests workable solutions to bring about gender equality.

By the way: to answer your last question, I do think that total gender equality hasn't been reached and that it's still a really big problem for Australia.
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