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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1320 on: February 27, 2017, 09:02:25 pm »
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hi!
how would i do question 14, im so confused!





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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1321 on: February 27, 2017, 09:15:30 pm »
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1322 on: February 27, 2017, 11:22:48 pm »
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I'm not sure how to do this question.
Help is appreciated  ;D

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1323 on: February 28, 2017, 12:14:48 am »
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I was also wondering how do you differentiate this function where g is a constant ?

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1324 on: February 28, 2017, 12:24:01 am »
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I was also wondering how do you differentiate this function where g is a constant ?


You just need to remember that 2,π and g are all constants so you can just leave them out the front and only worry about the variable.
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1325 on: February 28, 2017, 12:50:45 am »
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how do you know that 2 and π are constants?
Does constant simply mean that you do not change them when you differentiate them?
I also wanted to ask what would you do if you were ask to draw f(x) if given f''(x) and vice versa? Would this be a possible question that could be asked?

 

You just need to remember that 2,π and g are all constants so you can just leave them out the front and only worry about the variable.

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1326 on: February 28, 2017, 01:00:10 am »
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how do you know that 2 and π are constants?
Does constant simply mean that you do not change them when you differentiate them?
I also wanted to ask what would you do if you were ask to draw f(x) if given f''(x) and vice versa? Would this be a possible question that could be asked?
Constants are just numbers that stay the same forever (they aren't variable). The number 2 will always be 2, no matter what - this is the same for pi (3.1415....), pi never changes, it's always they same value. Hence, they are constant.

Regarding your graphing question, this is a very common question within the SACE curriculum, not too sure about HSC, but I'd imagine so. With these questions, it is extremely important to understand what f(x), f'(x) and f''(x) represent.

For example: f'(x) represents the rate of change of some quantity (the slope) & f''(x) represents the rate of change of the slope. I find that it is most useful to think about what f'(x) and f''(x) mean when they are equal to 0.

When f'(x) = 0, you have either;
  • Maximum point
  • Minimum point
  • or a Point of Inflection
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1327 on: February 28, 2017, 01:08:39 am »
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how do you know that 2 and π are constants?
Does constant simply mean that you do not change them when you differentiate them?
I also wanted to ask what would you do if you were ask to draw f(x) if given f''(x) and vice versa? Would this be a possible question that could be asked?

Constants have values that do not change - their value is constant. 2 is equal to 2, a is equal to a, pi is equal to pi. The value of x can change depending on the x value - x is a variable (changes).
If you differentiate a constant, it equals zero, and the derivative of a constant times a function is equal to the constant times the derivative of the function. eg:
derivative of 2 =0
derivative of 2x3 = derivative of 2(x3) = 2*(3x2) = 6x2

With regards to the graphing, I'm not very familiar with the HSC curriculum but they wouldn't give you f''(x) and just say to graph it. They may ask you to find the points of inflection for a graph, or find f(x) / graph if you're given f''(x) plus when x=1, f'(x)=2 etc (in order to graph it, you'd need coordinates)
Jake does raise some good points though, you should know what each of f(x), f'(x) and f''(x) represent and how to use them.
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1328 on: February 28, 2017, 01:55:22 am »
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How would you do this question?

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1329 on: February 28, 2017, 02:00:41 am »
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I get incredibly confused about how to draw a graph from f '(x) to f(x)

Constants are just numbers that stay the same forever (they aren't variable). The number 2 will always be 2, no matter what - this is the same for pi (3.1415....), pi never changes, it's always they same value. Hence, they are constant.

Regarding your graphing question, this is a very common question within the SACE curriculum, not too sure about HSC, but I'd imagine so. With these questions, it is extremely important to understand what f(x), f'(x) and f''(x) represent.

For example: f'(x) represents the rate of change of some quantity (the slope) & f''(x) represents the rate of change of the slope. I find that it is most useful to think about what f'(x) and f''(x) mean when they are equal to 0.

When f'(x) = 0, you have either;
  • Maximum point
  • Minimum point
  • or a Point of Inflection
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1330 on: February 28, 2017, 08:20:18 am »
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I get incredibly confused about how to draw a graph from f '(x) to f(x)

Why don't you give us an example you are struggling with! We'll work through it for you to show you the process!

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1331 on: February 28, 2017, 08:22:56 am »
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How would you do this question?

Hey! I'm on my phone so can't do working properly (someone else might tag in),  but the idea is to substitute 1.06L in place of just L (to represent the 6% increase); rearrange the expression to get the regular fraction with a constant out the front - Pull the sqrt(1.06) out the front of the traction. That represents the change in T - Then convert to percentage

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1332 on: February 28, 2017, 10:20:02 am »
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Help with these questions please
Why don't you give us an example you are struggling with! We'll work through it for you to show you the process!

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1333 on: February 28, 2017, 10:44:01 am »
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Help with these questions please

So for the first, question you know there's a turning point / point of inflection where x=1 and x=2 (dy/dx=0). They also tell us that the graph cuts the x axis at the origin, and no where else. Therefore there's only one x intercept, and it's at (0,0) - this is a point on the graph.
We also know dy/dx<0 between 1 and 2 and no where else, so we know between 1 and 2 the gradient is negative and therefore the graph is going down, and everywhere else it's going up. So the graph starts by going up, passing through (0,0), then starts going down where x=1 - so we know this is a local maximum turning point - then starts going up again where x=2 (before it hits the x axis) - so we know this is a local minimum turning point, then continues going up. Does that help with graphing that? :)

With the second question, you seem to have the right idea, but remember the graph of f(x) can be as far up and down as you like, so the first one doesn't have to be so far up. For these, just look at the values and how positive/negative they are to see how steep the graph is and use the gradient to get the general shape :)

How would you do this question?

Jamon's right, just sub in L=1.06L and divide the T values, the constants cancel out and you're left with √(1.06L)/√(L) = √1.06 =  1.03 therefore 3% change
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1334 on: February 28, 2017, 11:14:25 am »
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I'm still confused about how to use the gradient.
does it mean that on the f '(x) graph if its below the x axis its negative so the f (x) should be decreasing? how do you know what the gradient is? especially for the third image?

So for the first, question you know there's a turning point / point of inflection where x=1 and x=2 (dy/dx=0). They also tell us that the graph cuts the x axis at the origin, and no where else. Therefore there's only one x intercept, and it's at (0,0) - this is a point on the graph.
We also know dy/dx<0 between 1 and 2 and no where else, so we know between 1 and 2 the gradient is negative and therefore the graph is going down, and everywhere else it's going up. So the graph starts by going up, passing through (0,0), then starts going down where x=1 - so we know this is a local maximum turning point - then starts going up again where x=2 (before it hits the x axis) - so we know this is a local minimum turning point, then continues going up. Does that help with graphing that? :)

With the second question, you seem to have the right idea, but remember the graph of f(x) can be as far up and down as you like, so the first one doesn't have to be so far up. For these, just look at the values and how positive/negative they are to see how steep the graph is and use the gradient to get the general shape :)

Jamon's right, just sub in L=1.06L and divide the T values, the constants cancel out and you're left with √(1.06L)/√(L) = √1.06 =  1.03 therefore 3% change