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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2415 on: August 08, 2017, 11:15:35 am »
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Hey guys,

I was doing this paper from another school and question ii) and iii) confused me as  i dont know how did they find 'a' and the common ratio. could someone please help me and explain that to me?

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2416 on: August 08, 2017, 11:26:23 am »
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Hey guys,

I was doing this paper from another school and question ii) and iii) confused me as  i dont know how did they find 'a' and the common ratio. could someone please help me and explain that to me?

Thank you so much :)



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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2417 on: August 08, 2017, 11:38:59 am »
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Just adding onto the above, the proof is as follows:



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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2418 on: August 08, 2017, 11:39:23 am »
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OMG  i completely didint relize i) was part of ii) the graph completely threw me off. Thank you sooo much! :) :) :) =P


Just adding onto the above, the proof is as follows:

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Hope this helps :)


thank you so much. this question makes soo much sense now :))   :) :) :) :)
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2419 on: August 08, 2017, 06:47:42 pm »
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trying to sketch this graph
y=lnx/x
how the flip do i find the inflection point
i've done double differentiation (attached) but need help factorising for x
thanks!
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2420 on: August 08, 2017, 06:53:15 pm »
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step by step differentiation for this q pls (capture)
derived it and got... (attached also capture 1)
answer in book is 2x+(1/1-x)
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2421 on: August 08, 2017, 07:17:57 pm »
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trying to sketch this graph
y=lnx/x
how the flip do i find the inflection point
i've done double differentiation (attached) but need help factorising for x
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-x - 2x + 2xlnx = 0
-3x + 2xlnx = 0
x (2lnx - 3) = 0
x = 0, lnx = 3/2 so x = e^(3/2)
But we know x = 0 is not possible as y = lnx / x so x = e^(3/2) and just test that with the points on both sides.

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2422 on: August 08, 2017, 07:25:11 pm »
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trying to sketch this graph
y=lnx/x
how the flip do i find the inflection point
i've done double differentiation (attached) but need help factorising for x
thanks!
Given that the second derivative is bizarre, it is highly recommend that you test a bit on both sides instead of apply the second derivative test.

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2423 on: August 08, 2017, 07:46:46 pm »
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Given that the second derivative is bizarre, it is highly recommend that you test a bit on both sides instead of apply the second derivative test.
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yeah i did, did a table of values yet the answers still called for a max at (e,1/e)
and inflexion pt at e^3/4 , -3/(2e^3/2)

weirdest q i've seen
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2424 on: August 08, 2017, 07:48:10 pm »
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step by step differentiation for this q pls (capture)
derived it and got... (attached also capture 1)
answer in book is 2x+(1/1-x)

this one got lost thanks :)
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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2425 on: August 08, 2017, 10:01:57 pm »
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Given that the second derivative is bizarre, it is highly recommend that you test a bit on both sides instead of apply the second derivative test.
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yeah i did, did a table of values yet the answers still called for a max at (e,1/e)
and inflexion pt at e^3/4 , -3/(2e^3/2)

weirdest q i've seen
This was the output Wolfram gave me, and the root of the second derivative is where the inflexion point is.
step by step differentiation for this q pls (capture)
derived it and got... (attached also capture 1)
answer in book is 2x+(1/1-x)

Where did this come from? This seems like a pointlessly long derivative

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2426 on: August 08, 2017, 10:14:17 pm »
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I was wondering why do you need 'n' to be even to use Simpson's rule? Why can't n be odd like in the trapezoidal rule?

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2427 on: August 08, 2017, 10:24:55 pm »
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I was wondering why do you need 'n' to be even to use Simpson's rule? Why can't n be odd like in the trapezoidal rule?
It's more a consequence of the fact that n+1 has to be odd, which consequently implies n is even.

The reason n+1, i.e. the number of function values needs to be odd, has to do with how Simpson's rule actually works in the first place.

Simpson's rule doesn't use straight lines to estimate areas under curves, but rather uses parabolas. There is a theorem (which is provable, albeit a bit messy) that any three points UNIQUELY define a parabola. This serves as a basis.

Because we need three points to uniquely define the parabola, as opposed to just two points, we need to group points in groups of three instead. So we'd group \(x_0, x_1, x_2\), then \(x_2, x_3, x_4\), then keep going up until \(x_{n-2}, x_{n-1}, x_n\). And these are the points of interest. The number of points we have is of course the number of function values we must therefore consider.

\(x_0\) is the first point. With \(x_0\), comes \(x_1\) and \(x_2\), so that's two more points. With \(x_2\), comes \(x_3\) and \(x_4\), and that's another two more points. This will keep going until we reach \(x_n\).

Notice how we started off with just one single point, but then when we added we always added two more points. When you add 2 to an odd number, you get an odd number.
Visualising it, when you add 2 to 1 you get 3, which is odd. When you add 2 to 3 you get 5 which is still odd. And you're only gonna be stuck with odd terms forever.

Hence, the odd number of function values, and thus the even number of sub-intervals.

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2428 on: August 09, 2017, 05:22:48 pm »
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hello, guys could you please help me in this question?

I was wondering if you could tell me how you would solve this. Like I know it isn't A or D due to the process of elimination but I have absolutely no idea how to solve it or to eliminate another option. Could you also please tell me the process you used?

Thank you sooo much! :) :) :) :)

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Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2429 on: August 09, 2017, 05:24:42 pm »
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hello, guys could you please help me in this question?

I was wondering if you could tell me how you would solve this. Like I know it isn't A or D due to the process of elimination but I have absolutely no idea how to solve it or to eliminate another option. Could you also please tell me the process you used?

Thank you sooo much! :) :) :) :)