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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1110 on: October 12, 2016, 07:50:35 pm »
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If you think about it, its not really part of the speech (unless it says "crowd jumps up cheering").

So you're probably going to have to refer to it as video or some sort.

The speech is the actual words of the text, not any of the filming of it. However you could analyse a certain line of the speech and say that its intention would be to evoke a ______ audience response. So you're correct in saying that you would have to refer to your related text as the video if you wanted to refer to the standing ovation.  :)

Thanks guys, I was thinking that. I'll just omit it from my essay :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1111 on: October 12, 2016, 07:51:32 pm »
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hey just double checking because now I'm getting a bit paranoid: I don't have to explain what's happening in my prescribed text do I?
like for one of my prescribed poems, its set in an abattoir. do I need to expressly say that if it doesn't necessarily add to my argument?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1112 on: October 12, 2016, 07:53:14 pm »
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hey just double checking because now I'm getting a bit paranoid: I don't have to explain what's happening in my prescribed text do I?
like for one of my prescribed poems, its set in an abattoir. do I need to expressly say that if it doesn't necessarily add to my argument?

Nope, assume that your marker knows your text inside out, especially since its your prescribed text  :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1113 on: October 12, 2016, 08:15:04 pm »
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My advice for unseen texts is to go in with a few common techniques to talk about; thats what my teacher said. The ones i try to think of are simile/metaphor, symbolism, alliteration/assonance, slang, allusion etc
And if its a picture i try to think of vector, salient image and colours mostly...

Hope that helps! And Good luck!  ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1114 on: October 12, 2016, 08:24:26 pm »
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OKAY QUICK QUESTION

With the quote:
“I was embarrassed
By old men standing up to shake my hand”

(A bit of context: Setting = Funeral of the narrator's four-year old brother)
*The narrator is quite young himself - which is why he feels uneasy.

My problem: I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT??? I DONT HAVE A NAME FOR THE TECHNIQUE TT_TT


It's literally at the tip of my tongue, but I can't think of anything.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1115 on: October 12, 2016, 08:31:00 pm »
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Hi!

I was just wondering what the best way is to establish a personal voice in a discovery essay?
My teachers have said that my arguments and analysis are very good but that I need to use emphatic language to make the response more my own.
I was just wondering if there are some key things I could do that would help with this?

Thanks :))

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1116 on: October 12, 2016, 08:31:24 pm »
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Aha! I see what you're saying. Is the poem said from the perspective of the child? Perhaps the patronising tone comes from the word "let" and the reversal of roles between father and child in terms of permitting right and wrong. It's a bit of a stretch!

Thanks! Essentially what I was looking for ^_^

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1117 on: October 12, 2016, 08:57:02 pm »
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 "The ramifications of particular discoveries may differ for individuals and their worlds"
What does this rubric point mean? as in are the the ramifications are different for different people, or the ramifications may be both positive and negative for the one individual?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1118 on: October 12, 2016, 09:07:17 pm »
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"The ramifications of particular discoveries may differ for individuals and their worlds"
What does this rubric point mean? as in are the the ramifications are different for different people, or the ramifications may be both positive and negative for the one individual?

Precisely what you just said: the ramifications are different for different people (which may be either positive or negative).
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1119 on: October 12, 2016, 09:12:04 pm »
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OKAY QUICK QUESTION

With the quote:
“I was embarrassed
By old men standing up to shake my hand”

(A bit of context: Setting = Funeral of the narrator's four-year old brother)
*The narrator is quite young himself - which is why he feels uneasy.

My problem: I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT??? I DONT HAVE A NAME FOR THE TECHNIQUE TT_TT


It's literally at the tip of my tongue, but I can't think of anything.
Juxtaposition? Contradiction? Paradox? Naaaahh? idkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Hii! So are you trying to make a point about the fact that this boy is finding the situation odd because of his young age??
 
Not sure what you need but I came up with a few things. This boy can be classified a naive narrator (some people call this by a different name; young narrator, unreliable narrator etc.).
So you could say the enjambment of "embarrassed" highlights the naive nature of the narrator and serves to contrast the adult oriented confrontation. Furthermore, the metonymical "shake my hand" supplements the melancholy explanation of guests paying their respects. Thus, in the narrators literary aversion to the tragedy, the unity of form and content suggests that the narrators language reflects their poor reception of the death of their younger brother.

That went so pear shaped at the end, but there are some techniques in there you may chose to use with whatever point it is you're trying to make??

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1120 on: October 12, 2016, 09:41:25 pm »
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Should we be using a title for our creative?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1121 on: October 12, 2016, 09:55:34 pm »
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Hii! So are you trying to make a point about the fact that this boy is finding the situation odd because of his young age??
 
Not sure what you need but I came up with a few things. This boy can be classified a naive narrator (some people call this by a different name; young narrator, unreliable narrator etc.).
So you could say the enjambment of "embarrassed" highlights the naive nature of the narrator and serves to contrast the adult oriented confrontation. Furthermore, the metonymical "shake my hand" supplements the melancholy explanation of guests paying their respects. Thus, in the narrators literary aversion to the tragedy, the unity of form and content suggests that the narrators language reflects their poor reception of the death of their younger brother.

That went so pear shaped at the end, but there are some techniques in there you may chose to use with whatever point it is you're trying to make??

I couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks for coming around!!

Hi!

I was just wondering what the best way is to establish a personal voice in a discovery essay?
My teachers have said that my arguments and analysis are very good but that I need to use emphatic language to make the response more my own.
I was just wondering if there are some key things I could do that would help with this?

Thanks :))
I think the first part of having a personal voice in a discovery essay is making sure that you are being unique and not just regurgitating the question - that's step number one. Emphatic language can work to your favour too, by putting emphasis on the sections that you deem most original.

Your introduction is the best place to set the emphatic tone on your discovery perspective.
I follow a structure like this:

First sentence: Concept statement
Second sentence: Response to the question
Third: Introduce prescribed text and what it says about discovery.
Fourth: Introduce related text and what it says about discovery.
Fifth sentence: Short usually, reiterate it all :)

What do you think? Does this follow a similar structure to your intentions?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1122 on: October 12, 2016, 10:00:12 pm »
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Should we be using a title for our creative?

No need! :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1123 on: October 12, 2016, 10:02:19 pm »
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Hey, just need some last minute help: how long should the creative be? (minimum word length)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #1124 on: October 12, 2016, 10:08:00 pm »
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My advice for unseen texts is to go in with a few common techniques to talk about; thats what my teacher said. The ones i try to think of are simile/metaphor, symbolism, alliteration/assonance, slang, allusion etc
And if its a picture i try to think of vector, salient image and colours mostly...

Hope that helps! And Good luck!  ;D

Welcome to the forums Eleanor! Best of luck for tomorrow ;D