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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2295 on: July 14, 2017, 04:29:24 pm »
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Hello! Just a question about speech writing. In a 5 minute time frame, I  only have a limited word count (800-850 words) and thus I do not think I can fit all the analysis from my notes, especially considering everything else I need to add to make it a "speech". I am not sure if I should cut analysis to make it seem more "speechlike", or focus more on the analysis.
Also, any other general tips for speechmaking/speaking are appreciated, because I am not very good at it.
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If the presentation/delivery of your speech is a main factor in the criteria - then I definitely suggest that you cull some hardcore analysis in order to make way for an exceptional presentation. Addressing the needs of the text type (in this situation - a speech) is essential for showing your marker you are confident in English. Don't worry about fitting allll of your work in. I know it's frustrating because you've worked on it! But if it doesn't go in this speech, there will be other opportunities for you to use this knowledge and these examples. You still need to deliver a strong analysis, but when it impedes on the speech text type then you know it's time to take a step back!

In terms of presenting, I wrote this guide only two months ago about presenting speeches for assessments. Hopefully it helps! :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2296 on: July 14, 2017, 04:33:23 pm »
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Hey guys,
I'm finding it really hard to get into my module C text: The Art of Travel. I'm finding it really boring and just don't want to do all the questions that i've been given for it. We've also never really analysed a philosophical text before so i'm finding it a bit hard.
Do you have any tips on how to  analyse module C texts and any ways that I could find the text more interesting?
Thanks heaps :D :D

Hey there! I didn't study Art of Travel but some students who did might come along to give their advice! Firstly, I'll direct you to these notes in case they can be any help at all! I studied Brooklyn for People and Landscapes and I also found that to be really boring. I'm starting to see a trend here...

I just focused on recognising I don't enjoy the text, but analysing it for it's features can be fun. So I looked online and there wasn't a whole lot, but with everything there was I worked hard on expanding. I felt like it was a challenge for Brooklyn because in my eyes, it's not a wonderful wonderful book, so I was working really hard to find things to talk about - it was challenging. I've linked you specifically to Art of Travel resources, but if you type in Module C to the notes section you can see how I planned my essay in a graph!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2297 on: July 14, 2017, 04:35:27 pm »
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Hey there! I didn't study Art of Travel but some students who did might come along to give their advice! Firstly, I'll direct you to these notes in case they can be any help at all! I studied Brooklyn for People and Landscapes and I also found that to be really boring. I'm starting to see a trend here...

I just focused on recognising I don't enjoy the text, but analysing it for it's features can be fun. So I looked online and there wasn't a whole lot, but with everything there was I worked hard on expanding. I felt like it was a challenge for Brooklyn because in my eyes, it's not a wonderful wonderful book, so I was working really hard to find things to talk about - it was challenging. I've linked you specifically to Art of Travel resources, but if you type in Module C to the notes section you can see how I planned my essay in a graph!

Thanks Elyse! (also your legal lecture today was great)  :):D :D
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2298 on: July 14, 2017, 04:36:31 pm »
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Thanks Elyse! (also your legal lecture today was great)  :):D :D

Ahh thanks Katie! It means so much to me :) So glad you enjoyed it! Happy studying ;)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2299 on: July 14, 2017, 04:57:25 pm »
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My view on this: if lots of people do a particular RT then there is a lot of people there who will do it badly. So hence you can shine above the others.
Personally I think if you do an overdone prescribed text than you run the risk of sounding the same more than an overdone related text. I can't really say of the top of my head which ones not to do but some recommendations are:
Distant Lands by Tim Winton (think that's what it is called)
Ode to A Nightingale by Keats - I have awesome analysis on this if you want, although this didn't help me with the 2016 question, I used my AoS RT (below)
The Rabbits by Shaun Tan and John Marsden

May I also suggest having two? One can simply be your AoS RT if it fits well enough, otherwise prepare yourself adequately please. BOSTES don't like to actually give you a good question ;D


Unfortunately my AoS related text doesn't work well with people and landscape :(
But thank you for the recommendations! I'll check them out :)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2300 on: July 14, 2017, 06:55:01 pm »
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Hello!
 I was wondering if this paragraph made any sense as I am analyzing my related text in response to each module C people and politics rubric dotpoint, in this case that of the relationship between textual form, medium of production and language choices and how these choices influence and shape meaning. Please tell me if there is anything I can improve on! :D
 
The relationship between textual form, media of production and language choices influence and shape meaning as explored through “To Kill A Mockingbird”. Novels as a textual form allow characters’ thoughts and feelings to be clearly expressed to the responders, enabling for a thorough exploration of this novel’s racial politics and prejudice through the perspectives of several characters and therefore permitting the responder to form their own evaluation of such topics. Language choices in “To Kill A Mockingbird” also distinguishes between characters, such as those of Bob Ewell who mostly speaks in extremely colloquial language (“She was mighty beat up” ) and Atticus Finch who’s constant high modality language (“I am confident that you gentlemen will review without passion the evidence”) demonstrates his higher intellectual capacity and depicts Bob Ewell as a racist, prejudiced fool, therefore conveying Harper Lee’s intent of condemning negatively used racial politics and discriminatory prejudice.

Thank you in advance! :D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2301 on: July 14, 2017, 07:22:42 pm »
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Hi there, what is the best way for preparing for the English examination. My biggest fear for the English examination is that fact i need to remember all my essays.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2302 on: July 14, 2017, 09:16:31 pm »
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Hi, just wondering how many paragraphs/main thesis points are recommended for the AOS essay? I usually only have 3 really big body paragraphs but then thats only 3 thesis points. Would it be better to try to get more? Thanks 

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2303 on: July 14, 2017, 09:39:36 pm »
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Hi, just wondering how many paragraphs/main thesis points are recommended for the AOS essay? I usually only have 3 really big body paragraphs but then thats only 3 thesis points. Would it be better to try to get more? Thanks 

If you do integrated well (it's hard to do successfully but if you do it well it will be an amazing essay) then do 3, but if you have never tried it before then don't risk it in an exam and do 4 body paragraphs (semi-integrated) with 2 themes.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2304 on: July 14, 2017, 10:30:54 pm »
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Hello!
 I was wondering if this paragraph made any sense as I am analyzing my related text in response to each module C people and politics rubric dotpoint, in this case that of the relationship between textual form, medium of production and language choices and how these choices influence and shape meaning. Please tell me if there is anything I can improve on! :D
 
The relationship between textual form, media of production and language choices influence and shape meaning as explored through “To Kill A Mockingbird”. Novels as a textual form allow characters’ thoughts and feelings to be clearly expressed to the responders, enabling for a thorough exploration of this novel’s racial politics and prejudice through the perspectives of several characters and therefore permitting the responder to form their own evaluation of such topics. Language choices in “To Kill A Mockingbird” also distinguishes between characters, such as those of Bob Ewell who mostly speaks in extremely colloquial language (“She was mighty beat up” ) and Atticus Finch who’s constant high modality language (“I am confident that you gentlemen will review without passion the evidence”) demonstrates his higher intellectual capacity and depicts Bob Ewell as a racist, prejudiced fool, therefore conveying Harper Lee’s intent of condemning negatively used racial politics and discriminatory prejudice.

Thank you in advance! :D

Hey, I'm just a current student so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I'm guessing from your text that you're doing People and Politics? I'm doing the same, so hopefully I can be of some help  :)

The relationship between textual form, media of production and language choices influence and shape meaning as explored through “To Kill A Mockingbird”. Novels as a textual form allow characters’ thoughts and feelings to be clearly expressed to the responders, enabling for a thorough exploration of this novel’s racial politics and prejudice through the perspectives of several characters and therefore permitting the responder to form their own evaluation of such topics.

I think this is a good line to run, but markers will really reward it if you can condense it down a bit and you'll have more time to dedicate to your analysis. People and Politics almost always requires you to identify the political comment the author is trying to make, and crucially, how they represent this. You have both of these elements (racial politics/prejudice + novels as a textual form), however they're raised separately as two different sentences. If you can make a succinct topic sentence that combines them you'll be absolutely ace.

To combine these elements, consider basing your analysis around characters and characterisation, as A) your analysis is based around characters already (Bob Ewell and Atticus Finch), and B) characterisation and the representation of characters is an aspect of novels as a form. You can also add depth by bringing context into your argument.

Your current topic sentence very clearly alludes to the rubric, but you'd save space and make your essay more accessible to exhausted exam markers if you nod to it by weaving it into your argument and analysis. Try to strike a balance between subtlety and an unmistakable reference to the focus of the module.

So, something like: "In Harper Lee's 1960 novel, To Kill a Mockingbird, the racial politics and prejudice of civil-rights era America is represented in the portrayal and interaction of the novel's characters" could tighten your topic sentence. If you wanted to run a different form argument altogether, you could say that the 1930s southern USA setting is used to stage Lee's 1960s civil-rights era commentary on racial politics.

That said, I'm basing my advice solely off what teachers at my school have told me, so if your teachers say you should be doing anything in a specific way, that's the way to go.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2305 on: July 15, 2017, 12:11:14 am »
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Hi there, what is the best way for preparing for the English examination. My biggest fear for the English examination is that fact i need to remember all my essays.

Hey! We have a guide on memorising English Essays that would be worth a read! ;D

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« Reply #2306 on: July 15, 2017, 12:16:51 am »
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Hi, just wondering how many paragraphs/main thesis points are recommended for the AOS essay? I usually only have 3 really big body paragraphs but then thats only 3 thesis points. Would it be better to try to get more? Thanks 

Hey Jane! Definitely agree with pikachu, doing more than 3 points would start to compromise on quality I reckon!! Quality > quantity always ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2307 on: July 15, 2017, 12:20:19 am »
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Hey, I'm just a current student so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I'm guessing from your text that you're doing People and Politics? I'm doing the same, so hopefully I can be of some help  :)

You are an absolute hero - Welcome to the forums! ;D

Hello!
 I was wondering if this paragraph made any sense as I am analyzing my related text in response to each module C people and politics rubric dotpoint, in this case that of the relationship between textual form, medium of production and language choices and how these choices influence and shape meaning. Please tell me if there is anything I can improve on! :D

I like this paragraph for sure! My comment would be to be careful you don't slip into retelling the text or describing characters too much, you slip into it a bit in the end there. Mixel mentioned you need to convey how it is represented, so I'm also looking for more techniques, and analysis of how those techniques communicate ideas relevant to the module!! ;D

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2308 on: July 15, 2017, 12:23:02 pm »
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Hey, do you have any advice (or suggestions) for using a play for an ORT? since most resources suggest novels, poems, speeches etc does this mean using a play isn't reccomended?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #2309 on: July 15, 2017, 12:28:07 pm »
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Hey, do you have any advice (or suggestions) for using a play for an ORT? since most resources suggest novels, poems, speeches etc does this mean using a play isn't reccomended?

Hey there! Doing a play for a related text is 100% okay! I have no recommendation against this whatsoever. Plays are just as good of an other related text candidate as any other text type :)

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