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Re: Repeating a subject but getting a lower study score question
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2016, 06:23:53 pm »
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I'm repeating a subject next year in Year 12, I plan on using it as my bludge and won't be going to the end of year exam.

If I fail or get a lower study score will this override my higher study score that I get this year?
They won't both count, I think the higher one counts. But even then theres no point in repeating it. It's better if you just do 5 subjects? Or maybe if you're keen to do 6, then pick a different bludge subject.  There's really no point in you repeating a subject in order to bludge though. It won't work
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Re: Repeating a subject but getting a lower study score question
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2016, 06:30:42 pm »
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They won't both count, I think the higher one counts. But even then theres no point in repeating it. It's better if you just do 5 subjects? Or maybe if you're keen to do 6, then pick a different bludge subject.  There's really no point in you repeating a subject in order to bludge though. It won't work
I'm doing 2 3/4s this year and wanted to do 4 next year but I can't because according to my school it's unfair to the rest of the state LOL.

I need the extra time to focus on English and Spesh, so that's why I'm repeating one of my 3/4/ since it'll require no effort despite the study design changing for it next year. If I did 5 different 3/4s next year, I'll end up doing 7 subjects in total, apparently this is fair to myself from my school's logic.

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Re: Repeating a subject but getting a lower study score question
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2016, 07:28:29 pm »
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They won't both count, I think the higher one counts.

Can confirm, your higher study score will always be used when repeating a subject - regardless of whether you achieved said score the first or second time you completed the subject.
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Re: Repeating a subject but getting a lower study score question
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 07:35:54 pm »
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I think it's a serious waste of your time going to classes for a subject you won't go to the exam for. Try talking to some people higher-up in your school or those that understood VCE a bit better (i.e. the coordinator), because the idea that you're an advantage by having 4 subjects is downright stupid. Some of the highest achievers in the state complete just 4 subjects in year 12 because they already have two great scores they're happy with under their belt, and you'd be disadvantaging yourself at the end of the day. Honestly, if a school is forcing you to do a subject which won't go towards your atar (either by virtue of getting a lower score or if they theoretically made you do a new subject), you could even try taking it to VCAA. Just my 2 cents, because I don't think what is being done to you is really fair. Obviously this would be a bit different if you got an awful score in the subject you're repeating and the logic was to redo it for a higher one, but that's not what I understand to see here.
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Re: Repeating a subject but getting a lower study score question
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 08:36:18 pm »
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From experience, if your school forces you to do 5 subjects in Year 12 and you opt to repeat something for the 'bludge', don't. Take a subject that you enjoy, or take something that you feel might be beneficial for your future.

What I'm about to say below isn't directly targeted at anyone, but those who want to take an 'easier' path. It is also a bit off topic, but I feel it's fairly relevant to some of the later posts.
To answer OP's question though, it won't override your current Study Score. You get the highest scaled study score from both years.

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VCE is a lot more about life lessons, overcoming adversity, discovering effective study methods, coping with pressure, than it is trying to find a cheap way to 'cheat' the system.

I dropped Physics in Year 11 and opted to throw away all potential effort in Chemistry because I felt it was easier on my workload and a better way to cruise Year 12 and get a nice ATAR. What did I do with this newfound time? Procrastinate it all away.

This year, being a Maths tutor I have had students with a whole spectrum of work ethics. Some dedicate consistent effort, each and every day (with the occasional day off) while others try to be super 'keen' but end up getting knocked over by the same ghouls known as 'procrastination'. The ones who dedicate consistent effort are studying 5 or 6 subjects, but those who procrastinate have 3 or 4 subjects. They had similar Year 11 3/4 study scores but the difference in their work ethics is what makes the ultimate difference in how they're faring this year with SACs and what not.

You have enough time in Year 12 to do 5 subjects and do well in them all.
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Re: Repeating a subject but getting a lower study score question
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 09:44:09 pm »
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Thanks all, I appreciate your answers.

Pretty much the coordinator and assistant principal looked at my circumstances and decided that it'd have to take 5 subjects, they echoed that because I would be at an advantage compared to the rest of the state as the predominant reason for their decision.

I don't really want to commit to a 5th subject because I plan on going to uni in Aus to study engineering/finance but I'm not eligible for HECS, I don't want to have to take Calc 1 at uni unless it's my only option (save $1k) so I wanted to give myself more time for spesh. I'm not sure what SS you need for spesh to skip Calc 1 but I'd assume 35+ would be okay for you to not struggle in later year uni maths. Apparently not wanting to throw away $1k is my problem and not a significant of a reason to take 4 subjects, extremely disappointing considering the diverse socio-economic background of my school..

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Re: Repeating a subject but getting a lower study score question
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 03:49:52 pm »
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I can't because according to my school it's unfair to the rest of the state LOL.

...because I would be at an advantage compared to the rest of the state as the predominant reason for their decision.

I don't mean to criticise your school, but...
Actually, I do. These are absolutely absurd reasons for convincing you to do anything.
Your education should be about you, not the state. Moreover, such is life! People will not fight on a level playing field. Those who do SL languages when they've lived in the country for 6 (but not 7!) years; those who do Further and Methods when their real ability is at Specialist or above; those who can afford to pay a tutor to spoon-feed them every night... there is no such thing as being at neither an advantage nor disadvantage to the state. Such is the nature of our society, such is the nature of life. If you choose to be 'fair', you're only bringing disadvantage upon yourself.
I know that perhaps you can't convince your school (although I would compel you to), but I wouldn't passively accept whatever grovel they give you. As far as I know, the final decision is yours.

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Re: Repeating a subject but getting a lower study score question
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 04:00:21 pm »
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I'm repeating a subject next year in Year 12, I plan on using it as my bludge and won't be going to the end of year exam.

If I fail or get a lower study score will this override my higher study score that I get this year?
you will keep the higher study score.
also there is no point repeating a subject in year 12 especially if you wont go to the exam LOL you are better off using that period as a free period and just joining in on those classes if you get bored in your spares