the importance of methods

[pootato]

is methods really that important? my maths teacher says that methods is a prerequisite for almost every uni course, and thus should be done for the wide range of uni courses you will be able to enter. as a person who is really just not good at maths and is struggling to get high marks (above 70%) on year 10 maths tests, does it really matter that i get into methods? if i don't get into methods, does that mean i have basically no options for courses (excluding ones that don't require maths)? is methods just THAT important that i have to do it in order to be able to do what i want in uni? also, what can i do to improve my maths skills? any tips and tricks? thanks for any answers.

[Aaron]

Not at all. Methods is quite common as a prerequisite for sciences, engineering, commerce and those related disciplines (to name a few). It would be wise for you to check courses that you are interested in, and view their pre requisites to get the most accurate information. Is there anything in particular that you're interested in doing? This might help future replies.

I think what your teacher is trying to say is that methods opens up a lot more doors (potential uni courses), which is true. However, many disciplines do not require a methods prereq at all. So it's important to do your research

Edit: If you want a central system to check, you can always use VTAC's CourseFinder service: http://delta.vtac.edu.au/CourseSearch/searchguide.htm . Once you enter in the course name and find it, there should be a prerequisites section that you can click to view them.

[Shadowxo]

is methods really that important? my maths teacher says that methods is a prerequisite for almost every uni course, and thus should be done for the wide range of uni courses you will be able to enter. as a person who is really just not good at maths and is struggling to get high marks (above 70%) on year 10 maths tests, does it really matter that i get into methods? if i don't get into methods, does that mean i have basically no options for courses (excluding ones that don't require maths)? is methods just THAT important that i have to do it in order to be able to do what i want in uni? also, what can i do to improve my maths skills? any tips and tricks? thanks for any answers.

Hi
I've always enjoyed/been pretty good at maths and therefore I may be a bit biased. A lot of uni courses require methods (not all, but it's a common prerequisite), with a study score requirement of 25+. Due to this, I would definitely recommend doing it to keep your options open and make it easier if you want to pursue something that has some maths - eg finance - later, at uni. The average study score is 30, so 25 I think is quite achievable, especially if you work hard. I would continue doing maths, and methods in year 11/12. Try to understand the content, if you're struggling a tutor may help (I tutor some people ranging from year 7-11) to help you understand maths better. If you don't do methods / don't get the required marks in methods, it's not the end of the world but it will limit your courses and you may have to redo a uni equivalent later.
Basically, I recommend to do methods. It doesn't have to be in your top 4, just try and get the prerequisite marks and if you struggle, you can ask for help, either from your teacher / a tutor / family.

Good luck

[pootato]

Not at all. Methods is quite common as a prerequisite for sciences, engineering, commerce and those related disciplines (to name a few). It would be wise for you to check courses that you are interested in, and view their pre requisites to get the most accurate information. Is there anything in particular that you're interested in doing? This might help future replies.

I think what your teacher is trying to say is that methods opens up a lot more doors (potential uni courses), which is true. However, many disciplines do not require a methods prereq at all. So it's important to do your research

i'm interested in science related stuff like bio, chem and psych

[Aaron]

i'm interested in science related stuff like bio, chem and psych

I just updated my first reply with VTAC's link for you to search for courses. It's a central system so you don't need to go looking on every uni's website. Just type in the discipline. In that case... I would probably persist with methods. Teacher-me says 'try and find a course that doesn't require methods if you're struggling', but I also recognise that these science-y disciplines do require some level of math knowledge and this would be aided by methods during y12, hence its prerequisite and emphasis.

There are plenty of resources around that can assist you with methods - e.g. this forum, youtube videos, tutor etc etc.. If you're serious about science as a course, stick with it.

[pootato]

I just updated my first reply with VTAC's link for you to search for courses. It's a central system so you don't need to go looking on every uni's website. Just type in the discipline. In that case... I would probably persist with methods. Teacher-me says 'try and find a course that doesn't require methods if you're struggling', but I also recognise that these science-y disciplines do require some level of math knowledge and this would be aided by methods during y12, hence its prerequisite and emphasis.

There are plenty of resources around that can assist you with methods - e.g. this forum, youtube videos, tutor etc etc.. If you're serious about science as a course, stick with it.

what does the (any) mean?

[sweetiepi]

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what does the (any) mean?

It refers to mathematical methods  (without cas) (pre-2009) and mathematical methods (cas) (2006-now)
Both used to coexist, hence why there is the (any) instead of just (cas)

[medhaveep]

Hi okay i dont know how to start a new thread so i decided to just use this one which is most relevant to my question. I plan to get into medicine (direct entry) and i know that in Monash and a few other universities (that are interstate) do not require methods as a prerequisite. I really really really want to get into direct entry and definately not the indirect way by going through extra years of schooling, spending more money on fees and sitting the GAMSAT. I do have a backup plan of course, which is actually business (methods is not a prereq). Methods is not my strongest subject at all and i am well aware of the crazy high atar that is needed and an also very high UMAT score that is needed. So i was thinking that I should drop down to further so I dont have to put in extra hardwork i would if I were to do methods and can also give more attention to preparing for the UMAT. As I mentioned before I am not the best at maths and my school has asked me in the past to not do methods. Is it a wise decision  to drop down?

[Cranium002]

 Prerequisite for almost every Uni course only in Melb Uni or Monash. Latrobe accepts further maths.

[NAT0003]

is methods really that important? my maths teacher says that methods is a prerequisite for almost every uni course, and thus should be done for the wide range of uni courses you will be able to enter. as a person who is really just not good at maths and is struggling to get high marks (above 70%) on year 10 maths tests, does it really matter that i get into methods? if i don't get into methods, does that mean i have basically no options for courses (excluding ones that don't require maths)? is methods just THAT important that i have to do it in order to be able to do what i want in uni? also, what can i do to improve my maths skills? any tips and tricks? thanks for any answers.

If i recall correctly, all commerce degrees a raw 25 in methods