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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #135 on: May 21, 2018, 08:30:39 pm »
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For Co-op, yes it's due in September (or August? I need to check) but for UTS Women in Engineering, it's due on 17th June, so I have just less than a month to write my responses. I think it's more on the thought that I don't feel like I'm gonna get a 90+ ATAR- a 96 for Co-op and 93 for Aerospace Engineering (I swear every year, UNSW keeps increasing the ATAR cut-off from 91, to 92 last year, and now 93), especially how I'm on the verge of dropping 3U math but I still haven't made the decision yet.
I think it's more on the fact that I'm starting to feel the burden of doing more units than necessary, which is why I'm falling apart :/ There are so many things I need to do but I just don't have the time to do so.

You are feeling that way because things aren't swinging your way right now. You do have the time, you might just need to do some clever prioritising. You can't always devote as much time as would be ideal to every task - That's not just a you thing, it's not even just a HSC thing, it's just one of the rotten things about being busy!!

Hang in there. Prioritise when you can (EG - Coop scholarship application should be totally off your plate until the next set of holidays, ask your teachers to be excused from doing any unnecessary homework exercises while you catch up). Above all, stay positive :)

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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #136 on: May 21, 2018, 08:36:02 pm »
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Definitely do consider the scholarships early, but don't place too much emphasis on them right now! FEAS aren't due for another 2 months, and other scholarship offers in places like USyd and UTS aren't open until August! Use this time now to take a step back and work out what you need to do now.

What part of you wants to drop 3U? Is it the stress? Is it too much work? How are your marks right now? How will your other subjects benefit if you do drop?

I highly recommend starting up a to-do list, or if you have, to be specific with your to-do list. You may just have a few things on it each day, but start placing "priority" notices on them so that you're able to keep up with your schoolwork.

I have personally started one for uni, and it's working super well. At the moment, I'm managing (a) tutoring (b) I run a UNSW maths group (c) I'm still running the SDD contest with JTrudeau (d) I'm gunning for HD in all of my subjects, and as of recent, (e) I have about 3 assignments due in the space of two weeks.

My one currently looks like this:

<-- TOP PRIORITY -->
Due date // Subject // Progress
Wed (week 13) // Media Arts assignment (short video) // 33%
-> Update 1: May 19: Started up on video // jotted some ideas down (goal: get started with ideas)
-> Update 2: May 20: Began working on first frame // Goal: Begin working on production

<-- MEDIUM PRIORITY -->
Due date // Subject // Progress

<-- LOW PRIORITY -->
Due date // Subject // Progress

Obviously, you can fill this up however you feel will motivate you. But I suggest concentrating on what you need to get done - don't worry about things that will come later. We can inform you when new events/scholarships are open. Don't worry - take a step back and rrelax :)

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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #137 on: May 21, 2018, 08:47:05 pm »
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What part of you wants to drop 3U? Is it the stress? Is it too much work? How are your marks right now? How will your other subjects benefit if you do drop?
It's more of the fact that I'm not doing well, or more like, I'm slightly below my class average. Our class is doing horribly in 3U math (in fact, our average percentage for half-yearlies was 34%, with only 2 people barely scraping a pass). Because we had a different (horrible) teacher last year, she left a lot of gaps in my understanding with the 3U content- to be honest, I used to do well in 3U, now I'm falling apart, and I'm not sure if I can bring up my marks. My new math teacher is better, but he's a rigorous homework-checker with spreadsheets and all (which is understandable) but that takes up most of my study time in the afternoon I'm left with at least 1 hour to do other subjects.

At the moment, it's not really affecting my other subjects- I'm ranked Top 5 in all my other subjects except for 2U math (with a slight improvement from my previous mark) and my physics mark keeps fluctuating from really good to just under a pass. But it's more like my ability to balance my 3U math with my Major Works, considering how History Extension is due by the end of this term. And at this rate, my marks in 3U aren't really improving even though I spend so much time on it- honestly, I get stressed whenever I see or hear people from other schools (not just in the forums, but irl as well) say that 70% in 3U is horrible, but in reality, I've never really achieved a 70% in 3U- my best mark in 3U math is 62%, ranking equal 2nd.

I still can't decide to drop 3U math or not because on one hand, 3U math is assumed knowledge in engineering (and more like the thought that I want to do engineering but I can barely pass 3U math is disheartening) but on the other hand, it would be great to make room for other subjects :/
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #138 on: May 21, 2018, 09:12:03 pm »
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It's more of the fact that I'm not doing well, or more like, I'm slightly below my class average. Our class is doing horribly in 3U math (in fact, our average percentage for half-yearlies was 34%, with only 2 people barely scraping a pass). Because we had a different (horrible) teacher last year, she left a lot of gaps in my understanding with the 3U content- to be honest, I used to do well in 3U, now I'm falling apart, and I'm not sure if I can bring up my marks. My new math teacher is better, but he's a rigorous homework-checker with spreadsheets and all (which is understandable) but that takes up most of my study time in the afternoon I'm left with at least 1 hour to do other subjects.

At the moment, it's not really affecting my other subjects- I'm ranked Top 5 in all my other subjects except for 2U math (with a slight improvement from my previous mark) and my physics mark keeps fluctuating from really good to just under a pass. But it's more like my ability to balance my 3U math with my Major Works, considering how History Extension is due by the end of this term. And at this rate, my marks in 3U aren't really improving even though I spend so much time on it- honestly, I get stressed whenever I see or hear people from other schools (not just in the forums, but irl as well) say that 70% in 3U is horrible, but in reality, I've never really achieved a 70% in 3U- my best mark in 3U math is 62%, ranking equal 2nd.

I still can't decide to drop 3U math or not because on one hand, 3U math is assumed knowledge in engineering (and more like the thought that I want to do engineering but I can barely pass 3U math is disheartening) but on the other hand, it would be great to make room for other subjects :/

Just remember assumed knowledge is only assumed knowledge not a prerequisite! I'm assuming (don't take my word for it) as long as you understand your basic concepts for 3U you should be able to handle it or on the other hand, you can always take a bridging course in the holidays!

I was very skeptical with the assumed knowledge as well. I was doing 2U maths last year and it was just taking up so much time to do well but I knew it was assumed knowledge for Commerce at UNSW so that was primarily one of the reasons I kept it for as long as I did. However, after talking to actual staff of the Business School at UNSW, explaining my dilemma of whether or not to drop to General Maths they said I would be completely fine dropping.

Term 3 of Year 11, I dropped to General Maths. Best decision I ever made. It genuinely has freed up so much time for me to concentrate on some of my weaker subjects such as English and Economics.

In the end, if you feel comfortable having more units just in case you fall down in one subject then 3U may back you up. But I STRESS please do not put 3U maths over your sleep and mental health, that would be the worse case scenario!
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #139 on: May 28, 2018, 10:20:22 pm »
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Hey guys,
It's been a while since I've updated. Too bad here's another stress-filled post. I have English next Monday and 2U Math next Tuesday and I've barely started both of them. I've only done half an essay play for one question for English (since we're given two possible questions) and I've only done a bit of the first question for 2U math. My notes for English are all over the place since I haven't transferred it to my electronic notes so it's difficult for me to find textual evidence since I'm overwhelmed by the large number of sticky notes in my book.

On top of that, I've just convinced my parents to sign my application to drop subjects. It took them a while because they think I need to do 3U math in order to do engineering. They even asked me if I still wanna do engineering or have a backup if I drop 3U math- they seem to think that dropping 3U math = change in career options. Even though I know someone who did 2U math and is doing engineering, I still find it... unsettling? scared (not sure if these are the right words) that I'm dropping 3U math. I spent so much time on 3U math that I feel like I'm giving up and running away from my problems by dropping 3U math. Even though I've spent so much time contemplating on this, I don't even feel relief that I want to drop 3U math- more like guilt. My parents have spent so much money on tutoring and textbooks for Extension Math and now I'm discarding it all by dropping the subject.

All of this crap that has been going on has been making me even more stressed. Looks like I'll be crying myself to sleep again.
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #140 on: May 28, 2018, 10:31:35 pm »
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On top of that, I've just convinced my parents to sign my application to drop subjects. It took them a while because they think I need to do 3U math in order to do engineering. They even asked me if I still wanna do engineering or have a backup if I drop 3U math- they seem to think that dropping 3U math = change in career options. Even though I know someone who did 2U math and is doing engineering, I still find it... unsettling? scared (not sure if these are the right words) that I'm dropping 3U math. I spent so much time on 3U math that I feel like I'm giving up and running away from my problems by dropping 3U math. Even though I've spent so much time contemplating on this, I don't even feel relief that I want to drop 3U math- more like guilt. My parents have spent so much money on tutoring and textbooks for Extension Math and now I'm discarding it all by dropping the subject.
Hey,
I have heaps of friends (all UG right now) currently studying an engineering course who only did 2u maths. I think @MisterNeo is doing an engineering course (CompSci still counts right), and he only did 2u maths. Yes, it may be slightly harder because it's assumed that you should have done at least an Extension 1 level mathematics course (or equivalent), but honestly you shouldn't be stressing out about it as it's not a prerequisite subject.

All of my friends who only did 2u maths are doing just fine in their engineering course. It doesn't actually matter whether you've done 3u - if you're willing to put in the extra work and work harder when uni comes around, you'll be better than those who did 3u but slack off (because they "know everything"). So, take some time off and if you are really falling behind with it, you should consider dropping it. You don't want that extra unit adversely affect the other 10 units.

If you still have any doubts, feel free to let us know and we'll help you in any way we can.  :)

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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #141 on: May 29, 2018, 01:19:39 pm »
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3U maths is basically useless for Engineering!! Like, if you can differentiate and integrate, you are all good!

Make decisions to make yourself happy and healthy. Constant stressing about 3U isn't healthy and clearly isn't making you happy :)

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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #142 on: May 29, 2018, 07:20:51 pm »
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Hey,
I have heaps of friends (all UG right now) currently studying an engineering course who only did 2u maths. I think @MisterNeo is doing an engineering course (CompSci still counts right), and he only did 2u maths. Yes, it may be slightly harder because it's assumed that you should have done at least an Extension 1 level mathematics course (or equivalent), but honestly you shouldn't be stressing out about it as it's not a prerequisite subject.

All of my friends who only did 2u maths are doing just fine in their engineering course. It doesn't actually matter whether you've done 3u - if you're willing to put in the extra work and work harder when uni comes around, you'll be better than those who did 3u but slack off (because they "know everything"). So, take some time off and if you are really falling behind with it, you should consider dropping it. You don't want that extra unit adversely affect the other 10 units.

If you still have any doubts, feel free to let us know and we'll help you in any way we can.  :)

3U maths is basically useless for Engineering!! Like, if you can differentiate and integrate, you are all good!

Make decisions to make yourself happy and healthy. Constant stressing about 3U isn't healthy and clearly isn't making you happy :)
I mean, I just dropped 3U math today. I spoke to my physics teacher (who also happens to be a civil engineer with a Masters in IT) and he said that you don't even use the 3U stuff in engineering. I quote: "Not once in my life have I ever used circle geo until I had to teach it." I just find it ridiculous that universities are saying 3U is assumed knowledge. My teacher says it's just to "show you're mathematically mature." But I'm kinda scared about Co-op for Mechanical Engineering because they said 3U Math and Physics are assumed knowledge and you can still apply for the scholarship if you don't fit the assumed knowledge but you'll be at a disadvantage.

But tbh, it's more like mixed feels at the moment. I kinda feel like I'm running away from my problems by dropping 3U math but at the same time, I know I can get more time doing other subjects.
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #143 on: May 31, 2018, 09:00:42 pm »
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3U maths is basically useless for Engineering!! Like, if you can differentiate and integrate, you are all good!

Make decisions to make yourself happy and healthy. Constant stressing about 3U isn't healthy and clearly isn't making you happy :)
That's interesting that you mention it.... My father did electrical engineering/computer science at UNSW back then and told me how much maths he has to do and that I do need 3U and possibly 4U to make matters easier (ignoring circle geo and all that)... My case is a bit different since I do want to do courses that are more maths-related (well I do want to do advanced science)... I mean no one force me to take any specifics so I chose these subjects myself...

I gotta say that I may be in a much worse position than owidjaja and I cannot drop anything haha... (I'm going to update my journal soon)
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #144 on: May 31, 2018, 09:13:57 pm »
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That's interesting that you mention it.... My father did electrical engineering/computer science at UNSW back then and told me how much maths he has to do and that I do need 3U and possibly 4U to make matters easier (ignoring circle geo and all that)... My case is a bit different since I do want to do courses that are more maths-related (well I do want to do advanced science)... I mean no one force me to take any specifics so I chose these subjects myself...

I gotta say that I may be in a much worse position than owidjaja and I cannot drop anything haha... (I'm going to update my journal soon)
It depends on what kind of engineering you wanna go into. In electrical engineering, you do a bit of 4U math (i.e. complex numbers) and they reteach it to you but things like circle geo, polynomials, perms and combs etc. don't usually get used- according to my physics teacher.
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #145 on: June 04, 2018, 11:28:39 pm »
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Hey guys,
It's been a while since I've updated. It's almost been a week since I've dropped Extension Math and I've actually been sleeping earlier (my earliest was probably 10.30pm on a Friday night lol). Since my class is going through all the 3U content, I've been spending time in class finishing my math assignment (yes, a math assignment) and I actually started to go through some HSC past papers. Let me just say I didn't realise that the Section 2 of the math paper went up to 16 questions- our exams only went up to 10 multiple choice and 15 short answer questions. I feel like the day where I'll be sitting two 3-hour exams for Trials (2U Math and Modern) will be like a plane trip (tbh a plane trip to Indonesia is 7 hours so my two exams will almost be like me flying overseas :/).

Last Wednesday was also Parent Teacher Interview and I got my report that night. I found it amusing that my math and physics teacher essentially said the same thing how they know I know the content, it's just not showing on the paper welp :/ With the rest of my teachers, all of them are concerned that I'm gonna burn out before the HSC. Well, been there done that. At this point, stress is an integral part of my life that it's just become background noise- even though I'm smiling, I'm stressed on the inside. I find it funny when teachers are like "Oh you're smiling that's great to see." Meanwhile these teachers are fooled because I have no clue what's like to go through a day without stress. If anything, not being productive makes me even more stressed because it makes me paranoid that I missed something, yet being productive stresses me because time goes so fast I don't have time to do anything.

Saturday was Career Expo. I was actually amazed I got to speak to two aerospace engineering students, one from UNSW and one from USyd (though he also did physics). I kinda figured that UNSW was my first choice but Career Expo consolidated my choice. The difference between the way these students sold aerospace to me was that the guy at USyd liked to talk about USyd's reputation. He was going on about how all the degrees are the same but where you get the degree from is where it matters and talked about how USyd has great connections with places like the Defence Force. I also asked him about dropping Extension Math and he recommended me to do a Bridging Course and said his friends who only did 2U wasn't doing so well. And then my friend mentioned about how our physics teacher mentioned that you don't use all the stuff in 3U and then he went on about how in his lab there was a circle-related question (don't remember if he actually mentioned circle geo) and said perms and combs are important. I brought it up to my teacher today and he scoffed at that comment because he said that you only use some parts of 3U/4U (e.g. a bit of complex numbers, mechanics) but not the whole thing.

Meanwhile, the students I spoke to at UNSW (one was a student ambassador and one was a space engineering student) mentioned that they're totally cool with me doing 2U math. I even asked them about the 3U math on their undergrad guide and they said it's just a guide but 2U math is also fine. The space engineering student also told me that they'll assume knowledge up to Year 10 and reteach everything from that point, which is reassuring for me. Although this was the main reason why it consolidated my choice for UNSW as my first preference, just the way the student sold UNSW as an university to me was something I preferred than USyd. I would say your typical stereotype of USyd students are those from rich schools who still liked to talk about their ATAR even though they're in their final year of uni and like to talk about the elitism in USyd (this is coming from my visits at USyd and I have a friend who's doing Law at USyd so he's told me the stories), and the student ambassador at USyd kinda reaffirmed that stereotype, even though one of my house parents from Engineering Camp is also doing aerospace engineering at USyd and is one of the nicest people I know. But the way the UNSW student promoted his uni to me made UNSW more appealing.

The first student ambassador referred me to this aerospace student and when I told him I was referred to him, he looked really happy and asked me what I enjoy about aerospace and we had a great conversation on Bernoulli and Newton's theories in relation to flight. Even when I was asking for his recommendation on double degrees and not making the ATAR cut off, he was quite respectful in telling me alternative pathways and even mentioned that it's not his place to recommend anything to me but just weighed the pros and cons of double degrees. Meanwhile, when my friend was asking about Medicine with this other UNSW Med student, she was asking alternative pathways and the girl explained how it takes an extra year (making it 7 years) and completely said she won't recommend it, which was quite discouraging to my friend considering how she's already not confident in her UMAT. Anyway, I was actually shocked that work placement was mandatory- the student even mentioned that his friend had work placement at Qantas, which actually settled a bit of my stress on Coop because I would've assumed that if you don't make it into Coop you don't really get work placements. Anyway, I had a great conversation with the UNSW students and it actually reinforced UNSW as my first preference. USyd will probably will be placed second but there's no way I'm getting that 99 ATAR to get into space engineering.

I also met Adam (Mada438)! Beatroot actually created a Facebook group chat on this but she caught a fever and wasn't able to make it. I found this amusing because he was messaging me if I was at the Modern History seminar (which I was) and it turned out I was sitting right behind him and we didn't realise lol. It wasn't until the end of the seminar when he called me out and we actually talked. Now that I think of it, I barely talked so that kinda reinforced how I severely lack in social skills :/ We hung around at the AN stall and talked to Susie, Jamon and Isaac (sometimes).

Speaking of the Modern History seminar, let me just use this opportunity to fangirl over the fact that I met Bruce Dennett! Susie has mentioned how he's a really good speaker, especially at the HTA HSC lectures but I didn't expect to see him speak on Saturday. It was kinda funny because when I sat down, I didn't realise he was the speaker but he was having a conversation with a family. When I sat down, he asked me what year I was in (which I responded Year 12). He was going about how the old syllabus was better because he wrote the old syllabus- that caught my attention so I asked him if he was Bruce Dennett and he nodded. I was like "Omg I have your textbook!" and he responded "Oh she has my textbook! Bless you." During his presentation, he was talking about the old syllabus and looked directly at me in the eye and said how the HSC papers are already printed and kinda repeated this over and over as he moved closer to where I was sitting (since I sat in the second row at the end). Can't wait to see him again at the HTA Day!

This post went on for waaayyy too long so see you soon!

- Olivia
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #146 on: June 05, 2018, 05:31:52 pm »
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Saturday was Career Expo. I was actually amazed I got to speak to two aerospace engineering students, one from UNSW and one from USyd (though he also did physics). I kinda figured that UNSW was my first choice but Career Expo consolidated my choice. The difference between the way these students sold aerospace to me was that the guy at USyd liked to talk about USyd's reputation. He was going on about how all the degrees are the same but where you get the degree from is where it matters and talked about how USyd has great connections with places like the Defence Force. I also asked him about dropping Extension Math and he recommended me to do a Bridging Course and said his friends who only did 2U wasn't doing so well. And then my friend mentioned about how our physics teacher mentioned that you don't use all the stuff in 3U and then he went on about how in his lab there was a circle-related question (don't remember if he actually mentioned circle geo) and said perms and combs are important. I brought it up to my teacher today and he scoffed at that comment because he said that you only use some parts of 3U/4U (e.g. a bit of complex numbers, mechanics) but not the whole thing.

I am excited for that USYD student to be bested by someone who went to a lower ranked university because they are a harder worker and better employee. Relying or otherwise placing any significant importance on the logo at the top of your piece of paper is such a farce. I'm glad you had a positive experience with the UNSW reps!!

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I also met Adam (Mada438)! Beatroot actually created a Facebook group chat on this but she caught a fever and wasn't able to make it. I found this amusing because he was messaging me if I was at the Modern History seminar (which I was) and it turned out I was sitting right behind him and we didn't realise lol. It wasn't until the end of the seminar when he called me out and we actually talked. Now that I think of it, I barely talked so that kinda reinforced how I severely lack in social skills :/ We hung around at the AN stall and talked to Susie, Jamon and Isaac (sometimes).

Adam is also a talker, you seem like a listener - Both equally important social skills ;D was great to see you guys again!!

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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #147 on: June 05, 2018, 05:43:26 pm »
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Hey guys,
It's been a while since I've updated. It's almost been a week since I've dropped Extension Math and I've actually been sleeping earlier (my earliest was probably 10.30pm on a Friday night lol). Since my class is going through all the 3U content, I've been spending time in class finishing my math assignment (yes, a math assignment) and I actually started to go through some HSC past papers. Let me just say I didn't realise that the Section 2 of the math paper went up to 16 questions- our exams only went up to 10 multiple choice and 15 short answer questions. I feel like the day where I'll be sitting two 3-hour exams for Trials (2U Math and Modern) will be like a plane trip (tbh a plane trip to Indonesia is 7 hours so my two exams will almost be like me flying overseas :/).

Last Wednesday was also Parent Teacher Interview and I got my report that night. I found it amusing that my math and physics teacher essentially said the same thing how they know I know the content, it's just not showing on the paper welp :/ With the rest of my teachers, all of them are concerned that I'm gonna burn out before the HSC. Well, been there done that. At this point, stress is an integral part of my life that it's just become background noise- even though I'm smiling, I'm stressed on the inside. I find it funny when teachers are like "Oh you're smiling that's great to see." Meanwhile these teachers are fooled because I have no clue what's like to go through a day without stress. If anything, not being productive makes me even more stressed because it makes me paranoid that I missed something, yet being productive stresses me because time goes so fast I don't have time to do anything.

Saturday was Career Expo. I was actually amazed I got to speak to two aerospace engineering students, one from UNSW and one from USyd (though he also did physics). I kinda figured that UNSW was my first choice but Career Expo consolidated my choice. The difference between the way these students sold aerospace to me was that the guy at USyd liked to talk about USyd's reputation. He was going on about how all the degrees are the same but where you get the degree from is where it matters and talked about how USyd has great connections with places like the Defence Force. I also asked him about dropping Extension Math and he recommended me to do a Bridging Course and said his friends who only did 2U wasn't doing so well. And then my friend mentioned about how our physics teacher mentioned that you don't use all the stuff in 3U and then he went on about how in his lab there was a circle-related question (don't remember if he actually mentioned circle geo) and said perms and combs are important. I brought it up to my teacher today and he scoffed at that comment because he said that you only use some parts of 3U/4U (e.g. a bit of complex numbers, mechanics) but not the whole thing.

Meanwhile, the students I spoke to at UNSW (one was a student ambassador and one was a space engineering student) mentioned that they're totally cool with me doing 2U math. I even asked them about the 3U math on their undergrad guide and they said it's just a guide but 2U math is also fine. The space engineering student also told me that they'll assume knowledge up to Year 10 and reteach everything from that point, which is reassuring for me. Although this was the main reason why it consolidated my choice for UNSW as my first preference, just the way the student sold UNSW as an university to me was something I preferred than USyd. I would say your typical stereotype of USyd students are those from rich schools who still liked to talk about their ATAR even though they're in their final year of uni and like to talk about the elitism in USyd (this is coming from my visits at USyd and I have a friend who's doing Law at USyd so he's told me the stories), and the student ambassador at USyd kinda reaffirmed that stereotype, even though one of my house parents from Engineering Camp is also doing aerospace engineering at USyd and is one of the nicest people I know. But the way the UNSW student promoted his uni to me made UNSW more appealing.

The first student ambassador referred me to this aerospace student and when I told him I was referred to him, he looked really happy and asked me what I enjoy about aerospace and we had a great conversation on Bernoulli and Newton's theories in relation to flight. Even when I was asking for his recommendation on double degrees and not making the ATAR cut off, he was quite respectful in telling me alternative pathways and even mentioned that it's not his place to recommend anything to me but just weighed the pros and cons of double degrees. Meanwhile, when my friend was asking about Medicine with this other UNSW Med student, she was asking alternative pathways and the girl explained how it takes an extra year (making it 7 years) and completely said she won't recommend it, which was quite discouraging to my friend considering how she's already not confident in her UMAT. Anyway, I was actually shocked that work placement was mandatory- the student even mentioned that his friend had work placement at Qantas, which actually settled a bit of my stress on Coop because I would've assumed that if you don't make it into Coop you don't really get work placements. Anyway, I had a great conversation with the UNSW students and it actually reinforced UNSW as my first preference. USyd will probably will be placed second but there's no way I'm getting that 99 ATAR to get into space engineering.

I also met Adam (Mada438)! Beatroot actually created a Facebook group chat on this but she caught a fever and wasn't able to make it. I found this amusing because he was messaging me if I was at the Modern History seminar (which I was) and it turned out I was sitting right behind him and we didn't realise lol. It wasn't until the end of the seminar when he called me out and we actually talked. Now that I think of it, I barely talked so that kinda reinforced how I severely lack in social skills :/ We hung around at the AN stall and talked to Susie, Jamon and Isaac (sometimes).

Speaking of the Modern History seminar, let me just use this opportunity to fangirl over the fact that I met Bruce Dennett! Susie has mentioned how he's a really good speaker, especially at the HTA HSC lectures but I didn't expect to see him speak on Saturday. It was kinda funny because when I sat down, I didn't realise he was the speaker but he was having a conversation with a family. When I sat down, he asked me what year I was in (which I responded Year 12). He was going about how the old syllabus was better because he wrote the old syllabus- that caught my attention so I asked him if he was Bruce Dennett and he nodded. I was like "Omg I have your textbook!" and he responded "Oh she has my textbook! Bless you." During his presentation, he was talking about the old syllabus and looked directly at me in the eye and said how the HSC papers are already printed and kinda repeated this over and over as he moved closer to where I was sitting (since I sat in the second row at the end). Can't wait to see him again at the HTA Day!

This post went on for waaayyy too long so see you soon!

- Olivia

I have been reading your journal for a bit, this got me curious with how some of you guys know each other in person (the only ones I have spoken directly with from AN are probably lecturers (that's about it)... I will definitely be attending a lot of the AN lecture and do wish to speak to Jake since I wanted to know what the course he is doing is like (something that I am interested with...) -however things can happen during the day and that may prevent me from coming haha
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #148 on: June 05, 2018, 06:21:58 pm »
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I have been reading your journal for a bit, this got me curious with how some of you guys know each other in person (the only ones I have spoken directly with from AN are probably lecturers (that's about it)... I will definitely be attending a lot of the AN lecture and do wish to speak to Jake since I wanted to know what the course he is doing is like (something that I am interested with...) -however things can happen during the day and that may prevent me from coming haha

Meet ups, my friend, meet ups!!!! Most NSWers have met through these meet ups (when are we having the next one?), and we just add each other on Facebook I guess.

Definitely come to the lectures though, they're so worth it. :-)

PS. @owidjaja, how cool is it meeting people from the Internet?
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Re: HSC Journey- From Prelims to HSC
« Reply #149 on: June 05, 2018, 07:46:10 pm »
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I am excited for that USYD student to be bested by someone who went to a lower ranked university because they are a harder worker and better employee. Relying or otherwise placing any significant importance on the logo at the top of your piece of paper is such a farce. I'm glad you had a positive experience with the UNSW reps!!
Yeahhh, to be honest, I don't think he even mentioned about mandatory industry experience. I do know from my other friend who does space engineering at USyd mentioned you get to build an aircraft in your first year, but it's not like you're applying the information to actual real-life situations where you're more prone to encountering issues :/

Adam is also a talker, you seem like a listener - Both equally important social skills ;D was great to see you guys again!!
But unfortunately people value good talkers over good listeners -_- But it was great to see the AN lecturer team :)

I have been reading your journal for a bit, this got me curious with how some of you guys know each other in person (the only ones I have spoken directly with from AN are probably lecturers (that's about it)... I will definitely be attending a lot of the AN lecture and do wish to speak to Jake since I wanted to know what the course he is doing is like (something that I am interested with...) -however things can happen during the day and that may prevent me from coming haha
To be honest, Adam and I didn't even know each other. I guess it's just networking on Facebook. I'm assuming Bea (Beatroot) had Adam on Facebook and I had Bea on Facebook so she was the one who 'introduced' me to Adam through Facebook. Apart from Adam, I've only spoken to Susie or Jamon (kinda spoke to Isaac but I've never really had a full-on conversation with him since I've never been to his lectures).

Meet ups, my friend, meet ups!!!! Most NSWers have met through these meet ups (when are we having the next one?), and we just add each other on Facebook I guess.

Definitely come to the lectures though, they're so worth it. :-)

PS. @owidjaja, how cool is it meeting people from the Internet?
Haha I've pretty much added a lot of people from AN on Facebook (Susie, Jamon, Adam, Bea, Katie)!

Meeting people from the Internet is really awkward T_T I'm already comfortable with Jamon and Susie (I've been to their lectures and have had quite long conversations with them) but I personally found meeting Adam to be kinda awkward- not sure if Adam found it awkward as well. Like, I had no clue what to say (even though he's initiated the conversation already lol) and it was kinda quiet between us when we walked to the AN stall lol.

I just get exhausted when I interact with a lot of people and since I've already spoken to a number of student ambassadors that day, I was dead by the middle of the day lmao. But it was cool meeting Adam irl!
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