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Sample exam question
« on: October 28, 2017, 07:46:59 am »
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In terms  of the sample exam epsych has a very strange answer for question 7 e) i) and ii) i did more research on the topic and i dont believe their answers are right, maybe its correct if so i dont understand it

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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2017, 08:10:53 am »
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whos answers are you talking about? i don't believe vcaa have given any sample responses
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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2017, 10:23:36 am »
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Yeah, I was so confused for that question too.

I said the answer for e)i was independent groups design

and I discussed rehearsal for eii.

What did u say for that question?? How would we justify the use of the design we chose?

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2017, 11:47:51 am »
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whos answers are you talking about? i don't believe vcaa have given any sample responses

They're probably referring to the answers provided by Andrew Scott (ePsychVCE)
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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2017, 01:23:05 pm »
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For 7ei. i wrote she could again use a repeated measures design to ensure there are no individual participant differences, however this time she could also use counterbalancing in order to avoid order effects influencing the results of her experiment.

For 7eii. I wrote that the use of the images alongside monosyllabic words that do not rhyme would not assist in the stronger encoding of those words as short term memory has a limited capacity of 7+or-2 seconds which is not increased through the use of an image.

Can anybody tell me if this would this be wrong then?

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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2017, 03:05:40 pm »
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For 7ei. i wrote she could again use a repeated measures design to ensure there are no individual participant differences, however this time she could also use counterbalancing in order to avoid order effects influencing the results of her experiment.

For 7eii. I wrote that the use of the images alongside monosyllabic words that do not rhyme would not assist in the stronger encoding of those words as short-term memory has a limited capacity of 7+or-2 seconds which is not increased through the use of an image.

Can anybody tell me if this would this be wrong then?

Hey, I think it would, unfortunately.

This is due to Amelia already using repeated measures design, so you would need to suggest another research design to examine ie. Matched Participants or Indepedent Groups Design. You would also need to provide reasoning for the research design chosen to obtain full marks eg. Matched Participants allow for a higher control of participant differences across the experimental and control groups such as the strength of encoding memory, which would otherwise skew results......allowing Amelia (experimenter) to ascertain a greater understanding whether IV (specific) effects DV (specific)...[you can otherwise provide many reasons for either design like reducing order effects etc...]

For 7eii
Since it is a 3 mark question it requires a certain amount of depth. You saying it doesn't strengthen encoding a providing a singular reason would not be suggestive of a full mark. Possibly, include other reasons within your response such as the use of more sensory stimuli etc...

Hope I helped :)

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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2017, 06:04:57 pm »
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Forgive me if I'm thinking about the wrong question, but the answer MUST be repeated measure (yes, again) as she intends to use the same participants AND a list she has previously used.

Stronger recall would be expected due to elaborating rehearsal, as the images would create additional connections and meanings.


(I originally answered matched participants, as she had data about each person due to previous trials and this would reduce participant effect, but my very experienced teacher convinced me it had to be RP)

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2017, 12:02:35 pm »
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For 7eii
Since it is a 3 mark question it requires a certain amount of depth. You saying it doesn't strengthen encoding a providing a singular reason would not be suggestive of a full mark. Possibly, include other reasons within your response such as the use of more sensory stimuli etc...

Hope I helped :)



What else would you suggest for 7eii? I think that saying, 'No it wouldn't enhance recall' could earn 1 mark. Then 'due to the limited capacity of STM' being another mark. What would you think a third mark is for?
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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2017, 03:52:06 pm »
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Forgive me if I'm thinking about the wrong question, but the answer MUST be repeated measure (yes, again) as she intends to use the same participants AND a list she has previously used.

Stronger recall would be expected due to elaborating rehearsal, as the images would create additional connections and meanings.


(I originally answered matched participants, as she had data about each person due to previous trials and this would reduce participant effect, but my very experienced teacher convinced me it had to be RP)

Hey, could you please explain to me why the answer is repeated measures? Even if counter balancing was used, wouldn't participants already know the words from List 2 better already due to the first phase of the experiment?

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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2017, 04:56:40 pm »
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Hey, could you please explain to me why the answer is repeated measures? Even if counter balancing was used, wouldn't participants already know the words from List 2 better already due to the first phase of the experiment?
You're quite right, order effects may influence the results.
What would occur for everyone is:
List 1
List 2
List 2 with pictures  (extension)

What you proposed (and me initially) is:   [each person in group A is the matched pair of someone in group B]
A & B   List 1
A & B  List 2
A list 2    B list 2 with pictures

Do you see how there would still be impacts from previous exposure in this design?
However, in a MP design you would also have less data to work with and greater effects due to participant variables than the RM design. 

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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2017, 07:18:05 pm »
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Ahh okay, I get you!! Thanks so much for explaining it!

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2017, 08:40:02 pm »
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Forgive me if I'm thinking about the wrong question, but the answer MUST be repeated measure (yes, again) as she intends to use the same participants AND a list she has previously used.

Stronger recall would be expected due to elaborating rehearsal, as the images would create additional connections and meanings.


(I originally answered matched participants, as she had data about each person due to previous trials and this would reduce participant effect, but my very experienced teacher convinced me it had to be RP)

Hey, that is a fair enough assumption. I checked this question as well with an ex-psych student who got a 50 and my psychology teacher they both agree that VCAA will award a mark for any study design listed according as the justification is accurate. However, your teacher may be right when I think about it logically, but as I said any would have recieved a mark. Also, regarding repeated measures design although you are able to justify I am not sure if the question is phrased in such a way where it would be expected by VCAA would be repeated measures as the question before hand already asked it....anyway now that I think about it, it is a pretty cheeky question haha.
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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2017, 10:33:48 pm »
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how would you guys think that independent groups design would be justified?

Could we discuss it being quick to conduct?

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2017, 09:21:07 am »
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how would you guys think that independent groups design would be justified?

Could we discuss it being quick to conduct?

You could probably discuss that it is quick to conduct as well as eliminating order effects naturally (i.e. without the use of counterbalancing).
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Re: Sample exam question
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2017, 09:32:06 am »
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Also guys, while we're discussing the sample exam...

For CBT questions, what do we need to mention for the 3 marks? As well as the systematic desensitisation questions? (3 marks)


For question 6b. of the sample exam, how would we link the research study? because mentions 'poor response to medication due to genetic factors' (biological).
The epsych answer doesn't even reference the study.

and 7dii) where it asks about what the standard deviation suggests about encoding:
I discussed spread but how do we link to the actual encoding of the words?

What does actually mean to 'write a conclusion'? Because they often give very little lines and its only worth like 2 marks but I never know what to specifically discuss. For example, in the sample exam question 8c.

also, when asked for a research hypothesis, do we need to operationalise, or just state the name of the variable?

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How are you guys splitting the sections timing wise?
Because I tend to run out of time, and don't get enough time to edit/read over the 10-marker. I usually spend 1hour on short answer, then 30 minutes for extended response and then 30 for MC, but time is really restricting.


Thankyou so much!