Impact of a low 3/4 Subject score

[MissSmiley]

Hello everyone!

I just wanted to ask people whether they think getting a bad score for a 3/4 subject that you do in Year 11 will impact all your other study scores this year (for all your other 3/4 subjects)?

Just confused because they say VCAA looks at all your subject marks as well when they decide your score?

It's just that I didn't get the score that I wanted for Further Maths this year and it's just proven that I'm not a Maths person!!
However, I absolutely love English and all my other subjects and I think I have a better aptitude in these than I did in Maths.

So would VCAA bring all my other scores down just because I did bad in my first 3/4? Or is it just gonna be a new fresh start next year considering if I get good scores for all my other subjects?

Thanks a lot everyone!!

[exit]

Hello everyone!

I just wanted to ask people whether they think getting a bad score for a 3/4 subject that you do in Year 11 will impact all your other study scores this year (for all your other 3/4 subjects)?

Just confused because they say VCAA looks at all your subject marks as well when they decide your score?

It's just that I didn't get the score that I wanted for Further Maths this year and it's just proven that I'm not a Maths person!!
However, I absolutely love English and all my other subjects and I think I have a better aptitude in these than I did in Maths.

So would VCAA bring all my other scores down just because I did bad in my first 3/4? Or is it just gonna be a new fresh start next year considering if I get good scores for all my other subjects?

Thanks a lot everyone!!

No, each subject has zero effect on every other subject score. Who is the ‘they’ you are referring to? Doesn’t seem like a reliable source tbh or you might have misterpreted them.

Also, a low 3/4 subject will only contribute 10%  to your atar so there is virtually no difference between a 40 in further and a 30 in further.

Your GAT result may affect the moderation process of your SACs but this is unlikely and VCAA has checks to ensure this will not affect someone’s study score by more than 2 (in rare cases) - this is the only way VCAA can change your marks.

So basically, your Further result will have zero impact on your year 12 subjects. Good luck!

[Quantum44]

Hello everyone!

I just wanted to ask people whether they think getting a bad score for a 3/4 subject that you do in Year 11 will impact all your other study scores this year (for all your other 3/4 subjects)?

Just confused because they say VCAA looks at all your subject marks as well when they decide your score?

It's just that I didn't get the score that I wanted for Further Maths this year and it's just proven that I'm not a Maths person!!
However, I absolutely love English and all my other subjects and I think I have a better aptitude in these than I did in Maths.

So would VCAA bring all my other scores down just because I did bad in my first 3/4? Or is it just gonna be a new fresh start next year considering if I get good scores for all my other subjects?

Thanks a lot everyone!!

Getting an undesirable score in your year 11 3/4 subject has absolutely no impact on your year 12 study scores. VCAA do not at all care about what you got in another subject when calculating your study scores. Only VTAC analyse all scores of candidates in a particular subject when calculating the scaling of subjects, but this has no effect on your raw scores.

[MissSmiley]

Thanks a lot exit and Quantum44 !

I'm feeling better now!!

[The Special One]

It hurt me surprisingly.

You would think a bad 10% subject would be essentially inconsequential.

However that is not the case, it impacted my scholarship options

Unfortunately in the higher range of ATAR scores minute differences count for a lot it's how they differentiate students.

[Bri MT]

Each study score is based only on performance in that subject (+ maybe GAT).
The best study score from an english subject + the next best 3 scores get added together. 10% of your next two best study scores then get added. The number this results in is your aggregate.  The aggregates are ranked,  and this ranking produces your ATAR


Hopefully this shows you that it may negatively impact your ATAR but the impact might be less than from your other subjects

[Quantum44]

It hurt me surprisingly.

You would think a bad 10% subject would be essentially inconsequential.

However that is not the case, it impacted my scholarship options

Unfortunately in the higher range of ATAR scores minute differences count for a lot it's how they differentiate students.

The difference between a 30 and 40 study score in a 10% subject is identical to the difference between a 40 and 41 in a top 4 subject (ignoring scaling) so I can’t imagine it affected you that badly.

[The Special One]

The difference between a 30 and 40 study score in a 10% subject is identical to the difference between a 40 and 41 in a top 4 subject (ignoring scaling) so I can’t imagine it affected you that badly.

A single study scire point makes a big difference!

It didn't impact my course but for scholarships it did 100% if Atars were rounded it would be a  none issue but I didn't get that 99 or that 98.85 needed for a scholarship because of my 10% so small things can have a surprising impact on our future as it's kinda a big deal what happened not end of the world stuff of course but it's something

[Joseph41]

For reference, the difference between getting a 50 in what ended up being my sixth subject and not doing the subject at all would have been about 0.3 on my ATAR.

Whether or not that's a lot is up to you to decide, and that^ can be a little deceiving, but perhaps useful broadly.

[The Special One]

Yes I suppose alot is a subjective word as it's different for everyone.

Just don't think your 10% subjects are useless is all I'm saying

[Joseph41]

Yes I suppose alot is a subjective word as it's different for everyone.

Just don't think your 10% subjects are useless is all I'm saying

Absolutely - they can be very beneficial.