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chinese sl 40+ for a non-chinese background student?
« on: July 31, 2018, 02:47:04 pm »
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Anyone know a non-chinese background student that got 40+ study score? My teacher has expectations of low 30s for everyone in my class including the chinese kids who speak chinese at home...not sure whether its worth dropping or not please help!!

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Re: chinese sl 40+ for a non-chinese background student?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2018, 03:06:43 pm »
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I say your teacher is wrong ... For 2017 the mean score for Chinese as a second language is 40.4 and standard deviation is 6.6. Which means half the people who did Chinese as a second language got less than 40.4 and the other half got more than 40.4, and that around 70% of the students has a score of between 33.8 and 47.0 ( mean plus and minus one standard deviation ). I am not sure if your teacher was talking about raw score or scaled score but either way I don't think its correct going by the numbers. You don't have to believe what I say, check out the 2017 scaling report, link below :

http://www.agtv.vic.edu.au/files/AGTV%202018/scaling_report_2017.pdf

BTW I am Chinese and I would say if any native Chinese speaking students score less than mid 40s would most likely to be send to closest hard labour camp!
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Re: chinese sl 40+ for a non-chinese background student?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 03:12:48 pm »
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I say your teacher is wrong ... For 2017 the mean score for Chinese as a second language is 40.4 and standard deviation is 6.6. Which means half the people who did Chinese as a second language got less than 40.4 and the other half got more than 40.4, and that around 70% of the students has a score of between 33.8 and 47.0 ( mean plus and minus one standard deviation ). I am not sure if your teacher was talking about raw score or scaled score but either way I don't think its correct going by the numbers. You don't have top believe what I say, check out the 2017 scaling report, link below :

http://www.agtv.vic.edu.au/files/AGTV%202018/scaling_report_2017.pdf

BTW I am Chinese and I would say if any native Chinese speaking students score less than mid 40s would most likely to be send to closest hard labour camp!
teacher was probably talking about raw score imo.

No one ever speaks in scaled unless they specifically say "scaled".

As for OP yes it's definitely possible I know a non-native who scored a 50 in Chinese SL.

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Re: chinese sl 40+ for a non-chinese background student?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2018, 03:50:34 pm »
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I think it's worth considering what you actually want to get out of VCE, too. Scores definitely aren't everything!

P.S. Welcome to the forums, ATARific. :)

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Re: chinese sl 40+ for a non-chinese background student?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2018, 10:20:27 pm »
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I say your teacher is wrong ... For 2017 the mean score for Chinese as a second language is 40.4 and standard deviation is 6.6. Which means half the people who did Chinese as a second language got less than 40.4 and the other half got more than 40.4, and that around 70% of the students has a score of between 33.8 and 47.0 ( mean plus and minus one standard deviation ). I am not sure if your teacher was talking about raw score or scaled score but either way I don't think its correct going by the numbers. You don't have to believe what I say, check out the 2017 scaling report, link below :

http://www.agtv.vic.edu.au/files/AGTV%202018/scaling_report_2017.pdf

BTW I am Chinese and I would say if any native Chinese speaking students score less than mid 40s would most likely to be send to closest hard labour camp!

Yeah she is talking about raw score, my school starts teaching language in year 8 so I'm not sure if I'm behind or not to start with, thanks though it gives me a little hope   :-[ :-[