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[stonecold]

They are dramatizing it.  'Panic attacks'.

Cambridge0012 conveniently deleted his post where he'd said that it was an example of negligent practice because they're not trained professionals, which it isn't. That was what we were responding to. It's clearly a marketing tactic but it's by no means negligent

lol.  this thread is making for quite heated discussion haha.

[werdna]

Let me tell you this. TSFX has set itself up as a centre from which advice/information/success tips can be sought. I just find that they are intruding on other companies' territory by attempting to provide advice on all areas of the educational spectrum.. OK, it may not be negligent, but it's definitely wrong. They are not an all-rounded company.

[Mao]

They are dramatizing it.  'Panic attacks'.

Someone please tell of an instance where this happened to them in an exam.

Intimidation at its best.

And those tips are nothing more than an excuse to try and flog off their products.  If you read them, they always talk up their lectures and after making a point conclude with '...which will be covered in the lectures.'

Mate, bullshit. Not everyone can deal with the stress of exams, I came from a school where it was unusual for kids to not have panic attacks and emotional breakdowns when it comes time for the exams. I remember several occasions when I almost flipped out myself. Speak for yourself, TSFX is doing a much better job at helping kids than you are at the moment.

[werdna]

True that.. I actually had a mind blank myself in the English exam. 

[stonecold]

I think by them pointing it out will not help the problem.

If you seriously have panic attacks about exams, the you go to a psychiatrist, not TSFX.

[Mao]

I think by them pointing it out will not help the problem.

If you seriously have panic attacks about exams, the you go to a psychiatrist, not TSFX.

They tried to help. They gave out reasonable advice (the same ones that are regurgitated all around the industry by other companies such as mental blank), and it somewhat helped the kids who saw a good educator provider willing to help. It's a bit silly to assume everyone has a condition severe enough to see a psychiatrist.

[stonecold]

I think by them pointing it out will not help the problem.

If you seriously have panic attacks about exams, the you go to a psychiatrist, not TSFX.

They tried to help. They gave out reasonable advice (the same ones that are regurgitated all around the industry by other companies such as mental blank), and it somewhat helped the kids who saw a good educator provider willing to help. It's a bit silly to assume everyone has a condition severe enough to see a psychiatrist.

Yeah, but I just think it is inappropriate for them to mention it at all.  Someone who has anxiety about exams isn't likely to feel great being reminded about it.  I do agree though that most of the people on VN are probably much better suited to exam pressure, so it was a bit unfair of me to say that no on has ever crumbled under the stress.  However I have an issue of the word 'panic attack'.  It seems highly emotive, and when I hear 'panic attack' I think of it as rather serious.  I think anxiety would have been a better description.

[werdna]

I've heard the words 'panic attack' plenty of times enough to realise that it's not as serious as you make out to be.

Let's stop this discussion guys!

[stonecold]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_attack

[Mao]

I think by them pointing it out will not help the problem.

If you seriously have panic attacks about exams, the you go to a psychiatrist, not TSFX.

They tried to help. They gave out reasonable advice (the same ones that are regurgitated all around the industry by other companies such as mental blank), and it somewhat helped the kids who saw a good educator provider willing to help. It's a bit silly to assume everyone has a condition severe enough to see a psychiatrist.

Yeah, but I just think it is inappropriate for them to mention it at all.  Someone who has anxiety about exams isn't likely to feel great being reminded about it.  I do agree though that most of the people on VN are probably much better suited to exam pressure, so it was a bit unfair of me to say that no on has ever crumbled under the stress.  However I have an issue of the word 'panic attack'.  It seems highly emotive, and when I hear 'panic attack' I think of it as rather serious.  I think anxiety would have been a better description.

I disagree, being aware of this is and knowing how to cope is much better than hoping it wouldn't hit you in an exam. These bursts of anxiety don't come from knowing you are anxious, they come from 'oh shit I forgot something damn i'm going to fail now I can't do anything else'. Their advice helps you to get yourself out of it. I have received a fair bit of positive comments re that email, they are doing a good thing there.

Whilst TSFX is bad in some respects (overpriced, shit exams, average notes), they do genuinely try to help the kids. They are not ALL bad. Just because their products aren't too good and their marketing strategy is a bit too aggressive doesn't mean they're all devil-spawn and are trying to suck out your soul.

[stonecold]

I think by them pointing it out will not help the problem.

If you seriously have panic attacks about exams, the you go to a psychiatrist, not TSFX.

They tried to help. They gave out reasonable advice (the same ones that are regurgitated all around the industry by other companies such as mental blank), and it somewhat helped the kids who saw a good educator provider willing to help. It's a bit silly to assume everyone has a condition severe enough to see a psychiatrist.

Yeah, but I just think it is inappropriate for them to mention it at all.  Someone who has anxiety about exams isn't likely to feel great being reminded about it.  I do agree though that most of the people on VN are probably much better suited to exam pressure, so it was a bit unfair of me to say that no on has ever crumbled under the stress.  However I have an issue of the word 'panic attack'.  It seems highly emotive, and when I hear 'panic attack' I think of it as rather serious.  I think anxiety would have been a better description.

I disagree, being aware of this is and knowing how to cope is much better than hoping it wouldn't hit you in an exam. These bursts of anxiety don't come from knowing you are anxious, they come from 'oh shit I forgot something damn i'm going to fail now I can't do anything else'. Their advice helps you to get yourself out of it. I have received a fair bit of positive comments re that email, they are doing a good thing there.

Whilst TSFX is bad in some respects (overpriced, shit exams, average notes), they do genuinely try to help the kids. They are not ALL bad. Just because their products aren't too good and their marketing strategy is a bit too aggressive doesn't mean they're all devil-spawn and are trying to suck out your soul.

What do you think of the word 'panic attack'  though?

And the main thing I have an issue with is their marketing strategy.  I think they way they target students to sign up is just too intense.

[shinny]

What do you think of the word 'panic attack'  though?

I don't see anything wrong with it. You could call it exaggeration in its correct psychiatric use, but I'm sure they just meant it in its colloquial sense. I wouldn't call what many experience simply anxiety because its often far more severe than that. Honestly I think people here are just trying to find something to criticise TSFX about because the majority of us have some kind of hate for them; but I don't think this is the right angle to approach it if that's what you're going for. It's not like they're charging for this advice so I don't see much wrong with it.

[werdna]

True that shinny.. whether we take up their advice is our own choice.

Long time no see! 

[stonecold]

Fair enough, but I personally interpret 'panic attack' in its literal sense.

Anyway, I have said everything I have to say, and have had enough debating.

People can read and make their own judgements, as Cambridge has pointed out.

[googoo]

yes i am from tsfx

Only idiots can miss the answer

@googoo, I think you're doing a better job at turning students away from TSFX than anybody else in this thread.

i don't think tfsx wants idiots from ere

You've dug yourself deep into a hole here.

Either:
-You do work for TSFX, and have publicly denigrated your own customers.
-You don't work for TSFX and have blatantly lied to us all.

So which one is it?

This is another example of idiots in action. None of those two. Only idiots think those are exhausted alternatives.

Why don't you just answer the question?