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How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« on: November 03, 2009, 08:01:44 pm »
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Hello guys,
 
Honestly, I am really bad at English. But I really want to improve. I don't mind working hard at all.
 
I have a few questions; am I hopeless as English requires naturally talented people with imaginitive minds and good vocabulary?
 
Can I achieve high scores from working hard (studying)? If so, how?
 
What things do I need to look out for when do particular writing; context, persuasive, text response, argumentative, language analysis? Embarrassing enough I really don't know how to write proper text responses yet. All I do is try relate arguments to the topic and thats it.

I am wondering if there is a template to write different pieces so that I can remember the model and know what to put in everytime I am given a topic. I mean just adapt the model to the given topic/prompt.

Please help me out if you can. Your help may change my life.

Thanks


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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 08:05:59 pm »
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I am wondering if there is a template to write different pieces so that I can remember the model and know what to put in everytime I am given a topic. I mean just adapt the model to the given topic/prompt.

That's exactly what I was teaching in my 'cram sessions' over the mid-sem break. So yes, it is possible.
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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 08:11:53 pm »
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Hi there.

Just want to say good on you for starting early. English is a subject where some people tend to improve my reading books from an early age to develop language skills, vocabulary etc. However it works differently for different people.

For example I have ALWAYS liked reading with a passion, and I achieve excellent results in English-however my vocabulary isn't too broad or sophisticated. So I don't what the correlation between the two LOL. But I do know reading books did help me.

WRITE LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF ESSAYS. The early u start=less work you have to do, and less stressful. Don't leave it like me where I left it 4 weeks before exams where i started cramming essays and sending to my teacher. Do 1-2 every week, and then u can afford to not do some some weeks.

At the beginning of the year do some essays for "fun", (have ur teacehr only check ur first one), then continue doing some just to get into the essay writing habit. THEN after a few weeks begin GIVING them to your teacher so she/he can pick up errors. Once she starts getting a lot of yours, she/he begins adapting to your style, and would be able to see the slightest change in writing.

Begin the Area of Study EARLY. For context this is especially useful, I began in the beginning of the year, and so used the weeks during our context to just write some pieces and get them checked, whereas everybody else was still in research phase.

I had NEVER EVER EVER done a language analysis in year 10 (I did VCE 1/2 in year 10), because my teacher was REALLY crap, he never followed the study design. Whereas when I moved up t year 11, everybody else already knew how. However, after getting a few pieces checked by my teacher, and reading my text book, I got an A+ for my SAC and a A for my practice SAC in Language Analysis- a person who had NEVER touched upon the area. So I would say it goes the same for text response.

You may find however you get A+ in context for example, and B in text response, THAT IS NORMAL. English has these 3 AOS to cater for people of DIFFERENT abilities. Do not see this as a failure. Just work on ur weakness.

Those who wish to succeed in English to NOT copy templates such as ur textbook. They are merely provided as a GUIDE/STARTER.

People who are good at English ADAPT IT INTO THEIR OWN/Use it as a starter or guide to build upoin your own. Do not be afraid to experiment before the exam. The textbook is used by 90% of VCE students for example....so you are not really standing out to get the good SS u want.

I wish you best of luck for the year.

Oh! Can I also say, my english coordinator told us, he had a girl who got E's and D's for SACs....she was terrible at English....then 2 weeks before hr exam she studied HARDCORE for English, and got an A or A+ on the exam....so it IS possible to improve.


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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 08:14:11 pm »
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Seriously, learn how to bullshit effectively. VCE English in a nutshell.

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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 08:17:12 pm »
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Great to hear it is still possible. However, where may I get the differeny essays for my text/film?

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 08:20:22 pm »
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Great to hear it is still possible. However, where may I get the differeny essays for my text/film?
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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 10:59:45 pm »
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Great to hear it is still possible. However, where may I get the differeny essays for my text/film?

What texts are you doing?
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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 11:02:59 pm »
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I have a few questions; am I hopeless as English requires naturally talented people with imaginitive minds and good vocabulary?
 
Can I achieve high scores from working hard (studying)? If so, how?
God no, and hell yes!

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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 12:16:03 am »
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Great to hear it is still possible. However, where may I get the differeny essays for my text/film?

What texts are you doing?
No idea at the moment just asking in advance

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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 12:17:48 am »
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I have a few questions; am I hopeless as English requires naturally talented people with imaginitive minds and good vocabulary?
 
Can I achieve high scores from working hard (studying)? If so, how?
God no, and hell yes!

Seriously, learn how to bullshit effectively. VCE English in a nutshell.
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Will just writing at home and give to teachers be enough or its best to find a tutor?

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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 12:21:34 am »
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Need more information on your abilities to answer that - depends on how quickly you learn, how many contact hours you need, how self-disciplined and motivated you are, how good your teacher is, etc.
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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 12:35:14 am »
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Need more information on your abilities to answer that - depends on how quickly you learn, how many contact hours you need, how self-disciplined and motivated you are, how good your teacher is, etc.
I am quite slow learning when it goes to english. Hrs, I don't know actually maybe 1hr per essay a week? I am determined to work hard for english. My teachers are not very good. I am not sure is it just me hating the subject.

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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 09:43:23 am »
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I think the first step is to go and ask what texts you are doing and then to read them as early as possible. If all your 3/4s for this year are done then you can probably get down to reading your texts now.
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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 10:29:15 am »
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Write loads of essays.  This year I was having trouble with language analysis; I kept getting 7s or 8s, so I went to see my teacher about it and she gave me some extra work to do and made appointments with me to see her and give her extra work.
So I did a whole lot of language analysis, and by the time I got to the practice exam on the holidays I was starting to get 10s.
I started getting worried mid-year.

So!  If you're already worried now, then as soon as you start getting into your texts, start working hard on doing some extra work.  Because trust me, it'll pay off in the end.
You can even do language analysis before you start studying your texts and get that up to a pretty good standard, then work on context and text response stuff later :)
As long as you have a good teacher at your school who is willing to help you, I don't think a tutor is necessary, but if you're concerned that your teachers won't be willing to help you individually as much as mine was, then maybe investigate that possibility?
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Re: How to study for English? Is English based purely on talent?
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2009, 11:48:12 am »
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Apart from writing a lot, you should also read a lot. Read different types of books, newspapers, blogs, and anything that has words on it. That really helps expand your style of writing even though you don't consciously think about it when reading, but it does help.
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