Are you good/so so/bad???

[kenhung123]

So those who do further are you duds at maths or your actually pretty damn good but just want to have a relaxing subject to get 48-50?

[Gloamglozer]

I'm a so-so.  I did Further because I thought it was going to be easy to get a 40+ raw.  Oh how I was so wrong.  Why?  Because of those careless mistakes on exam 1...

[kenhung123]

fair enough. does everyone have the desire to do at least 1 math subject anyway? e.g. you know your gonna get even 30 for further but still want to do it for the sake

[Gloamglozer]

fair enough. does everyone have the desire to do at least 1 math subject anyway? e.g. you know your gonna get even 30 for further but still want to do it for the sake

Basically another 2 reasons why I did it was:

1.  I wanted to tread the waters, that is, I wanted to see how "easy" it was compared to Methods.  So yeah, just for the sake of completing 6 subjects, I did Further.
2.  Also, I didn't want to pick up a subject I had no prior knowledge in after I completed a 3+4 last year.

[kenhung123]

you picked  up 3/4 without 1/2? did you feel like you didn't know much compared to the class or your all quite even? (perhaps sac performance)

[Gloamglozer]

you picked  up 3/4 without 1/2? did you feel like you didn't know much compared to the class or your all quite even? (perhaps sac performance)

Not really.  Considering most of the stuff you do is an extension of the maths you've done from year 7-10.  There are a few overlaps with Further and Methods and a few new things, but you pick them up pretty easily.

In some cases, yes you can be disadvantaged, but all in all, the concepts are easy to pick up and expand upon.

The only thing you have to make sure is exam pressure and careless mistakes - they are devastating, not only to your exam morale but also to your study score! 

[minilunchbox]

fair enough. does everyone have the desire to do at least 1 math subject anyway? e.g. you know your gonna get even 30 for further but still want to do it for the sake

My friend isn't going to do any 3/4 maths subjects even though she's only going to have 5 subjects total. She wants to be a teacher so she doesn't 'need' it and she just doesn't like maths even though she's been acing GM this year. (But I guess that's not really saying much.)

[Ilovemathsmeth]

LOL I did it because I wanted 48-50. Not sure how well I went though...

But a lot of people take it because they think it's an 'easy 50' when it isn't really that easy to do well, you need heaps of practice.

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LOL I did it because I wanted 48-50. Not sure how well I went though...

But a lot of people take it because they think it's an 'easy 50' when it isn't really that easy to do well, you need heaps of practice.

Your school sooo should have allowed you to do spesh, it would be easier to scale over 50 in spesh than get a 50 in further
But ah well that's in the past

In fact people who are 'good' with maths are taking a bigger risk if they do methods+further than methods+spesh

[kenhung123]

As in for her or for anyone in general?

[m@tty]

Anyone who is 'good' at mathematics.
Further:

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Specialist:

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So last year 42 in Specialist scales above a 49 in Further and 44 scales to more than anyone gets in Further
also if you make several errors in Further and achieve 45 it is equivalent to 35 in Specialist

EDIT:
35 in Specialist ~75% in exams = 30 marks lost [mid A's]
45 in Further ~lose 5-7 marks[I think]=93-95% in exams [mid A+]

[Ilovemathsmeth]

So what I got in Methods would have been the same as a 43 in Spesh?

My school was tight, they were adamant that 1/2 Spesh is important for 3/4. Sucks really, I'm going to go through the 3/4 course on my own soon and I haven't looked at 1/2 - people have told me it's not that important.

[m@tty]

So what I got in Methods would have been the same as a 43 in Spesh?

According to last years scaling even a little higher . Spesh scaling is HUGE

All these scalings are taken from http://entercalc.syte.cc as such I think they may not be exact

[kenhung123]

Anyone who is 'good' at mathematics.
Further:

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• 

Specialist:

• 
• 
• 
• 

So last year 42 in Specialist scales above a 49 in Further and 44 scales to more than anyone gets in Further
also if you make several errors in Further and achieve 45 it is equivalent to 35 in Specialist

EDIT:
35 in Specialist ~75% in exams = 30 marks lost [mid A's]
45 in Further ~lose 5-7 marks[I think]=93-95% in exams [mid A+]

Anyone who is 'good' at mathematics.
Further:

• 
• 

Specialist:

• 
• 
• 
• 

So last year 42 in Specialist scales above a 49 in Further and 44 scales to more than anyone gets in Further
also if you make several errors in Further and achieve 45 it is equivalent to 35 in Specialist

EDIT:
35 in Specialist ~75% in exams = 30 marks lost [mid A's]
45 in Further ~lose 5-7 marks[I think]=93-95% in exams [mid A+]

I still have the impression that specialist requires a lot more study and 42 is a very, very good score. Maybe even equivalent to 50 further effort. Who knows?

[NE2000]

This is if you are good at maths though. Getting a 50 in further pretty much means pretty much no silly mistakes. 42 in spesh is more achievable in that sense for people good at maths.